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Why College Shouldn't be Free (Political)

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Avatar FancyPants
16 Feb 2019 03:44
I don't think college being free is right for America, but the way we have it now is a huge issue. If you want to even think of working for a decent paycheck you can live off of, you have to go to college. As it stands, you either must stress yourself to the point of suicide attempts for some kids in scholarships, or you must take out student loans and go into debt forever.

Actually, that's how I'd describe most of America's biggest issues right now; we can't fix them with the snap of our hands. They're issues that are deeply rooted in our culture and each other.

Kids going into debt over college because minimum wage isn't even close to being able to live off of; is this a college issue or a minimum wage issue?

Kids bringing guns to school and shooting up their fellow classmates with guns that people have no practical reason to buy; is this a gun control issue, or a mental health issue?

The answer to all that is 'both', I think. I don't support banning all guns, nor do I support making college free, nor do I support raising minimum wage to $15 immediately. All of these things simply wouldn't work. But that doesn't mean we should deny that these are HUGE problems, you know?
Avatar Rlad116
16 Feb 2019 22:54
In reply to FancyPants
I agree 100% I'm at work so I might add to this later
Avatar Asparagus
12 Feb 2019 16:51
It keeps saying one of my comments has been replied to on this blog, then I come look and it’s all the same comments.
Avatar Rlad116
12 Feb 2019 17:28
In reply to Asparagus
Fin said sad
Avatar Asparagus
12 Feb 2019 18:30
In reply to Rlad116
Not to my comment
Avatar Rlad116
12 Feb 2019 18:32
In reply to Asparagus
I wouldn't know my life is a joke
Avatar Finrod
14 Feb 2019 15:29
In reply to Rlad116
I accidentally replied to you Asp haha. Then I resent it to Rlads. Okay yeah I deleted it so that’s why it didn’t show.

/Alias Hullbreach /Ban User:Finrod Reason:smh
Avatar HullBreach
08 Feb 2019 13:13
Plenty of great points!

All this talk of Federal government providing “free” college is a “solution” to a problem caused by the Federal government in the first place. When they took over student loans after the financial crash of 2008, the requirements to qualify were relaxed, so loans became plentiful. This resulted in more college attendance. Supply-and-demand tells you that more demand from students and a constrained supply means that prices increase - which is exactly what happened. Now those who have graduated in a past few years are much further in debt than students were just a decade ago at graduation (adjusted for inflation). Many students are learning that they’ve wasted their time on unemplyable degrees, so they may be taking low-paying jobs and still paying on the loans half-way to retirement age!
Avatar Finrod
08 Feb 2019 16:40
In reply to HullBreach
xddd Democrats amirite.
Avatar Gemini Guardian
06 Feb 2019 17:38
This is why choosing something is so difficult
because after you've made your choice you can't really go like "hmm well i don't want to do this thing, i wanna do that thing now." unless you're rich or something ackk
Avatar Finrod
07 Feb 2019 16:12
In reply to Gemini Guardian
Where do you live? You can refund college classes. Unless you’ve already been like a semester and a half deep into it.
Avatar Gemini Guardian
08 Feb 2019 04:49
In reply to Finrod
i'm not going to college in the usa apparently so i don't think it matters
Avatar Finrod
08 Feb 2019 16:36
In reply to Gemini Guardian
Riiip
Avatar Gemini Guardian
08 Feb 2019 16:39
In reply to Finrod
very much rip
Avatar Rlad116
07 Feb 2019 19:25
In reply to Finrod
Not even a semester and a half buddy. You have two weeks to withdraw
Avatar Finrod
12 Feb 2019 15:17
In reply to Rlad116
Saaad!
Avatar Rlad116
07 Feb 2019 19:41
In reply to Rlad116
and get your money back
Avatar Asparagus
07 Feb 2019 21:47
In reply to Rlad116
Yes. That’s how it was at mine too. Two weeks or you get nothing
Avatar Finrod
06 Feb 2019 14:40
Just a thought: But if college is to get you to professionalism. And if everybody gets free college. What would be the difference anymore between college and high school if they’re both free and both standards among society? Would it minimalise the true definition of professionalism. And minimalise college itself?? Imagine a future where college dropouts are seen as how high school dropouts are seen today.

And yeah agreed
Avatar Asparagus
06 Feb 2019 16:29
In reply to Finrod
This, along with the fact that they’d need more teachers to handle bigger class loads and like the way of high school, there would be a cycle of - we need more teachers > more teachers (typically) means less pay > teachers become less enthusiastic about their job > kids cared for less > ¯_(ツ)_/¯

And it happens in a lot of middle/high schools so you know it’s bound to happen in colleges too.

Somehow I felt like this was related to your comment so I am posting it LOL
Avatar Finrod
06 Feb 2019 18:30
In reply to Asparagus
That is a really good add on to help my comment so yeah it’s relevant at least. That’s a good point as well. And if teachers aren’t as special anymore because there’s more schools and they’re not enthusiastic that will have drastic changes on our future as well. And it already sucks because America’s known for having the worst education system for third world countries. If it dropped even more, I wouldn’t be surprised if we just collapsed.
Avatar JonahBrake2
06 Feb 2019 14:37
College shouldn't be free, because if it was, there would be a bunch of people who would skip school all the way until college, and not be able to get in because even though it's free, many people could not do it because of their education.

Also change that last bit
Avatar Finrod
06 Feb 2019 18:33
In reply to JonahBrake2
That’s kind of a minor issue lol, people already don’t go to some college classes, just because they don’t feel like it.
Avatar oswaldo123
06 Feb 2019 21:59
In reply to Finrod
Mmmm sounds like me in a few months
Avatar SkulHedFace
06 Feb 2019 08:16
How much do I owe you for that last bit
Avatar Finrod
06 Feb 2019 18:32
In reply to SkulHedFace
$30,000, with $200 interest for every month you don’t pay it off. (Relevant joke because haha student loans amirite)
Avatar nightfall9981
06 Feb 2019 06:37
Well in the perfect world it would be free but it's not perfect. if it was very cheap to get in we would lose out on how good of education it is like hospitals. So I believe it should be only there for people who actually fight hard like how much they want education.
Avatar Asparagus
06 Feb 2019 06:31
Don’t go to college, it’s a trap, I regret going.
Avatar Asparagus
06 Feb 2019 06:32
In reply to Asparagus
Let me elaborate: I don’t regret the friends I made but holy crap I’m broke. This isn’t insightful to what you said at all but I wouldn’t recommend college unless you’re 100% positive you wanna go (I wasn’t).
Avatar nightfall9981
06 Feb 2019 06:39
In reply to Asparagus
Ya if you don't want to be there and is ify with what you want to be go work at a horrible job so you can get that drive to go and work hard for something you want to do
Avatar oswaldo123
06 Feb 2019 06:00
FAFSA exists in California
Avatar Rlad116
06 Feb 2019 06:01
In reply to oswaldo123
FAFSA is nation wide. I qualify for it's entirety because I am child in foster care 😎
Avatar Rlad116
06 Feb 2019 06:01
In reply to Rlad116
Also depending on whether your parents filed their taxes so on and so forth you may not qualify for a number of reasons.
Avatar Finrod
06 Feb 2019 14:34
In reply to Rlad116
Lmao same
Avatar oswaldo123
06 Feb 2019 06:28
In reply to Rlad116
Oh I didn't know it was nation wide, I also already got it though
Avatar Finrod
06 Feb 2019 14:35
In reply to oswaldo123
Most things are only state exclusive if the states name is in it.
Avatar banjo2
06 Feb 2019 05:41
You forgot h2

I think
Avatar Rlad116
06 Feb 2019 05:42
In reply to banjo2
H1
Avatar banjo2
06 Feb 2019 05:44
In reply to Rlad116
Oh
Avatar Sun+Moon
06 Feb 2019 05:41
When i read the title i was like 'Oh boy, what's he gonna say?' but i actually agree with this. Basically the same here in Australia, too.
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