What I disagree with in that image By Twoinfinite

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By Twoinfinite
POSTED: 28 Nov 2024 00:54
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These are the things I disagree with in that image Draconid_jo.

Abolish student debt for 43 million Americans:
This one's kinda tricky because it would be nice to get rid of the debt but, all that money comes from tax dollars which the students will have to pay anyway and, the people that didn't go to college are affected by those who did.

Guarantee lifelong free public education:
Kinda the same reason as the first one, you'll be paying for it just over a longer span.

$25 minimum wage:
It sounds good on paper but if stores increase the wages then the prices also go up, so they make more money but they also spend more money. And this is made worse by the first two with higher taxes.

Cancel all medical debt:
Same thing as the student debt one.

Ranked choice voting:
I think she just wants this so she can get re-elected.

End mass incarceration:
Just, no lock em up. You can't do the time don't do the crime.

Land back commission:
Basically communism.

Declare a climate emergency:
Climate change is fake.

Big ag:
Doesn't this kinda contradict with the land back commission where she want to steal land now she wants to "help" them. Farmers want nothing to do with the government.

Cut military spending:
Might be the worst one on this list.

Close foreign US military bases:
No, this one is the worst.

Get rid of nuclear bombs:
Good luck with: North Korea, China, Russia just to name a few there is many more that will not get rid of them.

And there you go, it kinda seems like she wants to destroy America from the inside.

I also went to her website and agree with almost nothing that she would do as president. Thank you for your time.

+2 -1

Draconid_Jo
04 Dec 2024 20:57

Sorry for the late reply.
(I just noticed that you posted this the other day.)

Anyway, regarding your first 2 points, the average worker would pay (if they would be making above a large amount of income) a small tax for this, like what we pay for k-12 schools alread. The best solution is taxing the rich.
(Here's some evidence in support of free college.)

This article showcases how much it costs roughly for college annually and shows how much the US government spends on defense, proving that free college is affordable if we tax the rich and/or cut military spending.
(And this is how much the richest 1% have, BTW.)

Regarding the minimum wage fearmongering, IMO a law should be passed to prevent price gouging , and we are already seeing this (very much Capitalistic) kind of corporate greed affecting poorer people like me and my dad without any significant minimum wage increase, so to pretend as though these greedy corporations who serve mammon instead of [A=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 25:35-37&version=NIV]serving God[/A].
(Taxing the ultra wealthy easily pays for students, medical, housing, etc.)

Regarding the ranked choice voting, while it would obviously benefit 3rd party candidates like Jill Stein a great deal, our current political system is ridiculous and basically forces us to vote for Republicans or Democrats, both of which pretty much suck IMO.
(And please don't get me started on why I hate the Republican and Democratic parties so much, lol!)

Ranked choice voting would benefit all 3rd party candidates though, including the Libertarian Party, the Justice for All Party, the Constitution Party, etc., not just the Green Party or Jill Stein.
(So it's just as likely that it'd get Chase Oliver elected as it would get her reelected, in other words.)

Regarding the federal Land Back Commission and the socialization of big agribusiness, my understanding is that she wants to give certain federally owned lands back to Native Americans with the former (which doesn't exactly have anything to do with farmers AFAIK, unless they are farming on said federally owned lands), and the idea behind the latter is to promote more sustainable and natural farming practices, such as funding organic agriculture instead of large greedy corporations growing pesticide-laden GMO crops all over the country, and letting their artificial fertilizers run off into the water and result in toxic algae blooms.

As for the climate change denialism, IDK why you exactly it is that you insist on ignoring the overwhelming evidence (which basically all scientists agree on BTW) that supports the fact that too much CO2 can cause all sorts of problems for marine life (which IK myself because of my interest in marine fishkeeping BTW), and while maybe you don't care about ocean acidification killing off all life in the sea, I do.

“...We know this warming is largely caused by human activities because the key role that carbon dioxide plays in maintaining Earth’s natural greenhouse effect has been understood since the mid-1800s. Unless it is offset by some equally large cooling influence, more atmospheric carbon dioxide will lead to warmer surface temperatures. Since 1800, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has increased from about 280 parts per million to 410 ppm in 2019. We know from both its rapid increase and its isotopic “fingerprint” that the source of this new carbon dioxide is fossil fuels, and not natural sources like forest fires, volcanoes, or outgassing from the ocean.”

Source

As for cutting military spending and reducing the number of foreign military bases we have, it's worth pointing out that we spent approximately $820.3 billion on the military last year (roughly 13.3% of the entire federal budget), and that we have about 750 foreign military bases spread across 80 nations (about 41% of the 195 nations on the planet), compared to Russia having spent only $109.45 billion last year and having around 3 dozen bases, and China having spent only $296.44 billion last year and having only 5 bases.

Why exactly do we need such an expensive military force deployed all over the world? To maintain global peace and stability? The world is obviously neither peaceful nor stable as a result of our global military presence and its massively overinflated budget, and it is increasingly looking like our imperialistic foreign policy is leading us all to the brink of WWIII.

As for your argument against nuclear disarmament, in the aforementioned event of WWIII actually occurring, this could literally mean billions of people dying all over the world. We were the first nation to develop nuclear weapons and the only one to ever use them against another nation (twice), and so I'd say it's safe to say that we are just as attached to our nukes as they are theirs, and if we were actually willing to get rid of ours, the other nations you mentioned would follow suit.
(Most of those nations only developed nuclear weapons to deter the US from attacking them with our global military presence.)

As for your ridiculous conclusion that “she wants to destroy America from the inside”, it is more so that she wants to destroy the corrupt, authoritarian, ecocidal, warmongering, Satano-fascist empire that we have become, and to return control of this nation to those who should've been running it in the first place: We the People.
(Why should a bunch of evil billionaires and greedy corporate interests have more control of the government than regular people like you and me?)

Twoinfinite
04 Dec 2024 23:16
In reply to Draconid_Jo

That's okay.

It still adds taxes even if a little it adds up, and I'm pretty sure discrimination was made illegal by the 14th Amendment.

Cutting military spending is a horrible idea for the entire world.

Even without price gouging inflation is though the roof right now and the government dictating a companies prices is communism.

They don't force you to vote for anyone, you were able to vote for Jill Stein just fine but the American people didn't pick her.

It's not just big companies that use pesticides it's also small farmers like cotton farmers to keep the boll weevils off the crop, otherwise they would starve and/or freeze to death from them destroy the crop and their income.

Climate change is made-up to scare people.

Have you seen how horrible Russia is doing in their war? They have to use tanks from WWII that barely work anymore and are running out of supplies, if the US cut military spending we would be a sitting duck.

The US is the only thing stopping WWIII.

Nuclear weaponry is the new norm if they weren't made then there would just be bigger bomb that pack the same punch. And they wouldn't get rid of them they would see the US as weak with no bombs and would strike as soon as the bombs were gone.

She seems like a communist dictator.

Draconid_Jo
05 Dec 2024 00:46
In reply to Twoinfinite

We already have different tax brackets that we discriminate based on.
(And the 14th Amendment makes no mention of income, wealth, or taxes, aside from briefly mentioning that Native Americans aren't taxed.)

And why? What good is it doing anywhere in the world?
(I can see all of the bad it does when it gets used by neo-Nazis in Ukraine to kill Russians, or by the IDF to bomb women and children in Gaza.)

And the companies are just lying and using inflation as an excuse to get away with price gouging, and just saying that prohibiting it is “Communism” isn't enough to convince me that it's a bad idea, lol!
(I mean, why exactly is it that Communism is bad in this particular instance? Just because it's Communism?)

And that's technically true, but excluding 3rd party candidates from the presidential debates and from state ballots (like what the Harris campaign did to Jill Stein in a number of different states) is undemocratic and only helps to maintain the duopoly of the 2 lobbyist-owned political parties (the Republicans and Democrats), and helps to perpetuate the then self-fulfilling prophecy that 3rd party candidates can't ever be elected, which only serves to convince people that they need to “hold their nose” and vote for whichever candidate out of the Republican one and the Democrat one is deemed to be the “lesser of 2 evils”.
(Basically leading to tens of millions of people who would've wanted Jill Stein to be president to vote for Kamala Harris instead because they hate her less than Trump, and things like that.)

And could you please explain to me why exactly it is that ranked choice voting is bad?
(Other than that Jill Stein might get reelected, lol!)

And IK, but the whole point of socializing agriculture (“socializing” as in Socialism BTW) is so that the government can pay for farmers both big and small not to do those things, by providing them whatever resources they need to provide food for us all without spraying poison on our foods or letting a bunch of mad scientists genetically modifying it to kill humans insects.
(It isn't impossible to grow things organically, it's just harder and more expensive, and so the government can provide assistance to make it easier and cheaper.)

And you're basing your belief that climate change is made up on what exactly, lol?
(IK why fossil fuel companies pay politicians to lie and say that it isn't real--because it negatively affects their profits--but why are you defending them?)

And IG you aren't aware of the hypersonic missile technology and other impressive technological advancements that the Russians have been making with that relatively modest military budget of theirs. If throwing billions of dollars around could win wars, then Ukraine wouldn't be losing RN, lol!
(Even Trump can see the writing on the wall, although he's probably too cowardly and beholden to the neocons to do the right thing and make peace with the Russians.)

And how the heck did you arrive at that conclusion? We are literally funding the aggressors in the 2 conflicts in the world (the one in Ukraine and the one in the Middle East) that are most likely to lead to WWIII, and this is all simply the result of a LONG history of US aggression and NATO expanding eastward that inevitably brought us to this point, and to pretend that the Russians, the Iranians, or any of the other countries we've been threatening and engaging in covert and proxy warfare against for decades are to blame is just nonsense.
(Just look at our foreign policy over the course of the past 30 or so years. We're CONSTANTLY starting new wars.)

And we would be far more likely to strike them than they would be to strike us. In fact, we already did strike them, despite them (meaning the Russians) having the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.
(But IG that's just our peculiar way of preventing WWIII, lol!)

And she's actually an Eco-socialist--not quite a Communist, but similar--and what exactly is it about her that makes her seem like a “communist dictator” to you, lol?
(The fact that she's against forever wars and the surveillance state?)

Twoinfinite
05 Dec 2024 20:18
In reply to Draconid_Jo

I didn't have time to write a response yesterday sorry.

We should tax the same percent for everybody regardless of income or how much money they have otherwise it is discrimination.

Without US support Ukraine would've fallen to Russia and communism by now and Israel to terrorism, and it's good to protect others.

In 2022 the inflation rate was 8% compared to 2021 at 4.7% and this year at 2.6% there is inflation and it's going down but the dollar is worth less everyday, you can't deny it. The government is there to protect the people not to dictate our lives.

Yes, all candidate should be on the ballot. And if the people chose her to be president then she would be president, but the people chose Trump. Voting has always been that way why change what's been there forever?

So basically they would get their tax money back?

Climate change is made up by politicians to get more votes.

I am aware of their hypersonic missile technology, especially the one the exploded before it took off. They say they have really good weapons but half of them don't work.

Without the US, Russia would try to take every country in eastern Europe and western Asia.

Look at point 2

As long as communism in the world we will be on the brink of war.

And she wants to control everything and everybody like Hitler.

Draconid_Jo
06 Dec 2024 22:42
In reply to Twoinfinite

I mean, it sounds like a more fair way of doing things in theory, but it certainly isn't a very Christian way of looking at it.

Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth. Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!” The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is for those who trust in riches to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Mark 10:21-25 NIV

God discriminates between the rich and the poor, and particularly, between the rich who hoard their wealth rather than giving it to the poor (as most do) and those who are willing to part with their excessive wealth to help the poor, and this sentiment is repeated throughout the Bible, especially in the New Testament, and particularly in the words of Jesus Christ Himself.
(Also see Matthew 25:31–46 and James 5:1–6, as well as all of the other passages that I referenced in my reply to @KoolyAid 's comment.)

And as a reminder, the purpose of taxing wealthier individuals who (unlike my family) never have to worry about having enough money to buy food or pay their electric and water bills (not to mention taxes) more than us 99%ers is so that that money can be used to help people like me. My mother died 2 years ago (in part) because we couldn't afford to pay for healthcare, and our electricity was recently shut down because we couldn't afford to pay our bills. Under a socialist system like what Jill Stein is pushing for, billionaire pedophiles like Bill Gates would pay more in taxes so that people like me and my dad don't have to pay for our food, water, electricity, and (potentially lifesaving) medical care. I don't understand why some people care so much if billionaire pedophiles are forced to pay more in taxes while poor people in this country are literally freezing to or starving to death on the street, but I'm personally not too worried if multibillionaires are “discriminated” against so that me and my dad can have electricity again.
(It's been getting pretty cold here during the nights lately.)

And there are so many things that are wrong with this statement:

1. Ukraine is still falling to Russia in spite of US (and NATO) support, which is why we are continuing to escalate, and are increasingly becoming directly involved in the conflict ourselves.
(Which, if taken too far, will result in WWIII.)

2. Russia is no longer Communist, and hasn't been for over 3 decades, so there never was any risk of Ukraine “falling to communism”.
(Or as Putin put it in his infamous interview with Tucker Carlson “we're just as bourgeois as you now”.)

3. The idea of Israel “falling to terrorism” is completely and utterly ridiculous. I'm not going to argue that Hama's aren't terrorists or that October 7th wasn't an act of terrorism, but the idea that one of the most powerful countries in the world could be defeated militarily by one of the poorest in the world is complete and utter nonsense, and if it weren't for the Israelis dropping so many bombs on Gaza, they wouldn't even need our assistance in killing tens of thousands of Palestinian children.
(Or are you of the opinion that Palestinians are just “human animals?)

4. We are not “protecting others” with our military expenditures, we are arming others so that they can bleed and die while killing our enemies for us, because we are too cowardly to do so ourselves.
(Even if that means arming terrorists, which is precisely what we are doing when we send arms to Ukraine and Israel.)

And I'm not denying the inflation rate, I'm saying that it'd be completely irrelevant if we were a self-sufficient nation that wasn't overly dependent on cheap foreign labor, due to the boundless greed of the same companies who are engaging in the price gouging in the first place, as well as the billionaires and millionaires who invest invest money in them.
(None of whom had to soak instant ramen in cold water for food today because their electricity was shut down and they can't afford anything else to eat.)

And banning price gouging is “protecting the people”, it is protecting people like me and my dad from predatory companies who care more about making more shekels off of their products than whether or not I have anything to eat.
(But heaven forbid we “dictate the lives” of a bunch of rich people to protect some nobody like me.)

And she was excluded from certain states' ballots, and also from the presidential debates, along with the Libertarian, Constitution, and Justice for All Party candidates, so it wasn't a fair election by any stretch of the imagination, and that's the only reason that Trump won.
(And it's the only reason Kamala Harris got as many votes as she did as well. They're both cheaters.)

Be honest with me: did you even know who Jill Stein was before I mentioned her here on Paint?
(How are people supposed to vote for somebody they don't even know is running for president?)

And why are you assuming that farmers would be taxed? They ensure that everyone else has food to eat, so they would be paid by the government for performing an essential service, as “discriminatory” as that might sound to you.
(Kinda like what we do with the military RN, except that it'd be for feeding people instead of killing people.)

And you aren't saying anything about any of the science involved, you're just repeating the same lies that politicians who are paid by fossil fuel companies say to get more donations from them.

There is plenty of hard evidence that carbon dioxide stores heat in the atmosphere, and people have literally understood this for centuries. It only became a political issue when fossil fuel companies started buying out politicians and getting them to deny scientific facts that can literally be replicated in a 5 gallon nano-reef aquarium, and there's no point in even discussing this with you if you're just going to ignore all of the proof that I am presenting that what I am saying here is true.
(It takes a lot more time for me to look for links to reference to prove I'm right than for you to say something brilliant like “it's made up”, without offering any evidence whatsoever that that is the case.)

And they're winning the war, so I'd say they're working well enough, lol!
(Our “advanced weapons”, on the other hand...)

And that is just complete and utter nonsense, and even Trump knows that that isn't true.
(Who the heck are you getting all of thus nonsense from? The Azov Battalion's PR division, lol?)

And it is Capitalism--not Communism--that leads to more war in the world. To prove my point, China, North Korea, and Vietnam are all Communist countries, meanwhile the US is obviously a Capitalist country. You tell me how many wars those 3 Communist countries have started in the past 100 years, and then I can tell you how many the 100% Capitalist country the US has started in that same timeframe.
(I could include all of the wars started by other Capitalist countries like the UK and France, but we've started more than enough wars here in the US to make my point, lol!)

And she only wants to “control” billionaire pedophiles, genocidal warmongers, and greedy corporations who care only about profits. How can you even compare someone like that to Hitler?
(Especially when it is Trump, Biden, and Harris who want to continue arming and funding neo-Nazis in Ukraine--not her.)

Twoinfinite
07 Dec 2024 04:47
In reply to Draconid_Jo

It should be the rich WANTING to give to the poor instead of FORCING them to give all their money. 2 Corinthians 9:7: "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver"

If poor people never have to pay for food or anything then why even work? You'll get everything you need anyway, so there's no need to work, which will lead to an economic collapse.

This war has been going on for almost 3 years now and Ukraine is still standing thanks to the US and NATO without them the USSR would've won by now.

It is not ridiculous at all have you ever seen anything about Israel? There are terrorists every where! Russia will back all these terrorist eventually it's all a matter of time...

We are protecting others by sending aid for them to destroy their enemies with US and NATO support. UKRAINE WOULD'VE FALLEN BY NOW WITHOUT US.

If you didn't know it's more expensive to produce products domestically.

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T DICTATE COMPANIES.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CHOSE TRUMP, NOBODY CHEATED. And I wish I never heard about her and I wouldn't be sad if I never heard about her again.

If you want to believe in the lies of politicians and global warming you can but I won't belive their lies.

ydfgiohgjmdnfhklongmdsoikxdhfed THERE WEAPONS ARE GARBAGE THEY'RE USING TANKS FROM ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS AGO FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! That's why we have a high millitary buget because our weapons ACTUALY WORK.

COMMUNISM LITERALLY MURDERS THEIR PEOPLE WHY DO YOU LOVE IT SO MUCH??????????????

I will sacrifice my life to prevent this nation that I love from falling to communism or socialism or any of these other terrible governments! I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HER!

Thank you for your time.

Draconid_Jo
07 Dec 2024 18:59
In reply to Twoinfinite

So you're saying that if no rich people care if myself, my dad, my sister's rabbits starve to death or freeze to death, then it's wrong for the government to take a small portion of their excessive wealth that they literally do not need for anything other than to amass more wealth or to influence politics (like Bill Gates, George Soros, and other multibillionaires do), then the government should just let my family die, rather than do something “communist”?
(That's a pretty cruel way of looking at things, isn't it?)

So the purpose of life is working, and those who don't wish to do so or can't do so should starve to death or freeze to death? Is that what you're saying here?

I'm NOT saying that the government should just give poor people everything without them having to earn anything themselves, but good, water, shelter, electricity, and healthcare are all basic human essentials as far as I'm concerned, and you shouldn't have to work just to survive IMO.

The opposite of my way or thinking--which seems to be what you believe in--would be Social Darwinism, BTW, which is based on the racist atheist Charles Darwin's concept of “survival of the fittest ”.
(Meaning that you believe that those deemed to be “unfit”--in your case, those who can't or won't work--don't deserve to survive.)

Please correct me if I'm off base as far as my assessment of your views here, as you made no mention of the fact that poor people will starve to death if they cannot eat, will freeze to death if they cannot keep themselves warm during the winter, and will die of illness if they get sick and cannot afford healthcare, just like my mom did.
(Did my mom deserve to die because we couldn't afford to pay for her healthcare in your opinion? And should me, my dad, and these rabbits all be going without electricity to keep us warm during the cold winter nights simply because we aren't working?)

And OK, first of all, the USSR was dissolved in December 1991 (almost 3 years before I was born), and the fact that you didn't even know that well-known fact tells me just how mind-bogglingly ill-informed you are about all of this stuff.
(Not trying to be rude, but just to let you know that you SERIOUSLY need to do some minimal amount of research into these things before you go spouting off a bunch of crazy nonsense like you've repeatedly been doing here.)

As for the war between Ukraine and the RUSSIAN FEDERATION (notice I didn't say “Soviet Union” or “USSR”?), up to 1,000,000 people have died in it so far, despite the fact (and it is a fact) that Ukraine is just going to lose in the end anyway. If you think that dragging the war out so that more Ukrainians and Russians dying instead of trying to come to some sort of peace agreement with the Russians (who again, are NOT COMMUNISTS) is actually a good thing, IDK what to say to you here, but you should know that Donald Trump agrees with me on this issue.
(Whereas it sounds like you agree with Joe Biden, and actually think the Ukrainians can win for some bizarre reason.)

And who exactly are the “terrorists” in your opinion? Russia is already “backing” certain groups like Hezbollah and the Houthis that some people consider terrorists (not that you know who either of those 2 groups even are), whereas other groups like Hamas (the ones who committed the terror attack on October 7th last year) have actually fought against Russia's #1 ally in the Middle East before meaning Syria.
(Which is why Russia isn't backing them,and won't anytime soon.)

Honestly, you probably have no clue what I'm even talking about here, as your understanding of geopolitics (and basic world history, such as the collapse of the USSR and the end of Russian Communism) is severely lacking. You repeatedly spout out vague and (more often than not) completely inaccurate statements with a disturbingly high level of confidence that you actually know what you are talking about, when it is glaringly obvious to anyone who knows anything about these subjects (including those who agree with your views BTW) that you don't. You should really try to educate yourself about these things before you go having such strong opinions about them, as doing so without even a basic level of knowledge is never going to convince anyone except those who are even more ignorant than you are.
(Again, not meaning to sound harsh here, but you REALLY sound like you're completely clueless when you say some of these things.)

Also, to better understand my views, maybe you could actually try looking at all of the links that I've been providing throughout this conversation? I'm not saying that you'll wind up agreeing with me, but you'll at least understand why I think how I do about these things, and it may help you to better form your own views, rather than you repeating a bunch crazy nonsense like you have been.
(IDK where you're even getting all of this crazy nonsense from. Your parents?)

And everyone knows that it is more expensive to produce products domestically, which is why most companies don't, but some people (including Donald Trump) think that companies should make things here anyway to help support American workers, but IG you don't care about them any more than Americans who don't work.
(You only seem to be concerned about the well-being of rich people, giant corporations, and corrupt foreign countries like Ukraine and Israel.)

And the government already “dictates companies”. For example, we don't (usually) allow companies to dump toxic sludge produced by their factories into people's drinking water. Are you saying that we should allow that?
(When you make such ridiculous blanket statements like that, it's kinda hard to tell what you even mean, although it's probably just because you don't have a clue what you're even talking about.)

And we have no clue who would've won if it was a fair election where ALL of the candidates were on ALL of the states' ballots, and where ALL of the candidates were included in the presidential debates. If you can't even understand that much, then there's no sense in even trying to talk any sense into you.
(IG you like our rigged election system that excludes all candidates except Republicans and Democrats.)

BTW, out of curiosity, do you think that Joe Biden won fair and square last time?
(Trump doesn't.)

And you've presented absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anything I said regarding global warming is a lie. Whenever someone (in this case you) just repeatedly insists that something is true (in this case that global warming is made up) but refuses to say anything to back up their claims, that's a telltale sign that they are either intentionally lying, or (as I suspect is the case here) unintentionally lying because they have no clue what they are talking about whatsoever.
(Either way, you're lying, and you seem to be completely incapable of providing even the tiniest bit of evidence to back up your ridiculous, nonsensical, and completely baseless claims here.)

And you can tell me how great our weapons are when Trump is forced to agree to Russia's peace proposal in Ukraine in order to prevent Russia from taking over all of Ukraine, or alternatively, when he decides to start WWIII by fighting against Russia directly because there's no other way of winning.
(And even then, we'll inevitably be forced to resort to using nukes, because our conventional weapons just aren't as good as the Russians' are, especially right on their own border.)

And can you name one Communist country that is “murdering people” RN? Or even one country that is Communist in this century? Because I could name 50 Capitalist countries that are murdering people in wars RN if you asked me to.
(Again, you're spouting off more vague nonsense instead of even attempting to provide actual evidence to back up your lies.)

And you obviously don't even know what Communism, Socialism, or even Capitalism are, and if you want to go “sacrifice your life” fighting against the USSR, be my guest, lol!
(You may have a bit of trouble doing so without a time machine, though.)

And YW, but PLEASE try to not sound like a complete ignoramus with your response next time, assuming you plan on even responding to this.
(I won't mind if it takes you a couple weeks or so to reply, but PLEASE try to educate yourself instead of saying completely nonsensical things about the USSR and Communism.)

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

John 8:32 KJV

Twoinfinite
20 Dec 2024 07:37
In reply to Draconid_Jo

Reply

Twoinfinite
07 Dec 2024 20:26
In reply to Draconid_Jo

I'll write a full response later, but I said USSR because YOU support socialism just like the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics(USSR). And have you heard of North Korea?

Draconid_Jo
08 Dec 2024 14:38
In reply to Twoinfinite

I see. Between that and you saying that Ukraine might “fall to Communism”, I was beginning to suspect that you thought the Cold War was still going on, lol!
(Although TBH it never really ended, since we kept harassing and threatening the Russians, even after they became Capitalist.)

And I've heard of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (AKA "North Korea"), and I mentioned them in one of my prior comments.

And it is Capitalism--not Communism--that leads to more war in the world. To prove my point, China, North Korea, and Vietnam are all Communist countries, meanwhile the US is obviously a Capitalist country. You tell me how many wars those 3 Communist countries have started in the past 100 years, and then I can tell you how many the 100% Capitalist country the US has started in that same timeframe.
(I could include all of the wars started by other Capitalist countries like the UK and France, but we've started more than enough wars here in the US to make my point, lol!)

And I have a feeling that I know why you mentioned the DPRK, but you should know in advance that I don't believe all of the lies told about countries like the DPRK and Iran (the latter of which isn't Communist BTW) in mainstream media.
(We're always looking for excuses to start wars with countries that don't grovel before us, and making up human rights violations gives us an excuse to do so.)

Twoinfinite
07 Dec 2024 04:51
In reply to Twoinfinite

I'm sorry if this comes off as rude...

Draconid_Jo
07 Dec 2024 19:09
In reply to Twoinfinite

It didn't, but if I'm to be completely honest I actually laughed while reading parts of it.
(Especially when you called Russia the “USSR”, lol!)

Seriously dude, you have no idea how stupid everything you're saying sounds. IK I've been (more than) a little rude myself here, but I just don't know how else to get through to you, as it almost seems as though you've been brainwashed or something.
(How could you actually think that Russia was still a Communist country, lol?

Twoinfinite
04 Dec 2024 22:24
In reply to Draconid_Jo

I'll write a response to this later when I have more time

Draconid_Jo
05 Dec 2024 11:26
In reply to Twoinfinite

Alrighty, thanks again!

(I really do enjoy having these sorts of debates quite a bit, BTW.)

Draconid_Jo
04 Dec 2024 22:52
In reply to Twoinfinite

OK, thanks!

KoolyAid
30 Nov 2024 08:06

I agree with what you said about everything (especially the $20 minimum wage).

KoolyAid
30 Nov 2024 08:08
In reply to KoolyAid

I would link my blog about why Communism is inefficient, but I don't have my PC.

Draconid_Jo
04 Dec 2024 21:16
In reply to KoolyAid

This is your blog, and my response to it (and all of this anti-Communism in general) is this:

All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

[A=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 4:32-35&version=NIV]Acts 4:32-35 NIV[/A]

This is one of the key passages in the Bible that forms the basis for Christian Communism, and along with Deuteronomy 15:1–5, Ezekiel 18:7, Isaiah 58:2–7, James 2:14, James 5:1–6, Job 31:16–25, 28, John 11:10–11, Leviticus 25: 35–38, Luke 4:18, Matthew 6:24, Matthew 19:23–24, Matthew 25:40–46, Proverbs 28:3–28, Proverbs 31:9, and many other passages and verses present a decidedly different view of how we should treat the poor and less fortunate among us (including me and my dad) than diehard Capitalists would insist upon.
(It was Jesus Christ who invented Communism over 2,000 years as far as I'm concerned, not Marx or Engels.)

What I disagree with in that image

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