agreed @mr.gangsta,but im more towards commanders side here, and i also have ADHD,which will explain me spamming some days but its not often

Twinkle? Who's Twinkle?

Lord Zeus got deadmined just as many times as she did.

Derik, I'm not saying It's solely her autism, but it's probably a factor

I was the one who told her to remove the photos.

I have ADHD and Asburger's,(and I think a bit of multiple personalities)but do you see me harassing people or doing illegal things?No.Twinkle should be judged by her actions,not because she has Autism.

And you support the fact that she posted pictures of users here without their permission?-_-

Wow, lotsa comments.
And, isn't it funny how one of the main people accused of bullying Twinkle in the first place is the only one saying nothing happened? -.-

Yes it does D:

But again, he is better now, which I am thankful for...

I like to think I don't use it as an excuse, but idk....

*I don't

Sorry about the spam! Anyways, I've been bullied in rl, and don't tolerate bullies AT ALL! I think the bullies are to blame for the WHOLE situation! If they never bothered Twinkle in the first place, then this situation would not be happining in the first place! I might just start assisting the victim of bullying with their problem, even if I get banned for it! Nobody should have to worry about getting bullied!

Twinkle should get another chance, but when the bullies are banned from the site!

kenny,

1. I agree that therapy does suck, for some people, it helps though

2. I envy you if you have that kind of 'self control' because it's not an easy skill to master, and I do agree with the responsibility part, but again, easier said than done.

All I'm saying is that you have think realisticly. Not all of us can cope, yet.

And tbh, When you said that part about the severe bout of depression, I started crying, because my dad was like that..... especially during times of high stress, like birthdays, and especially Christmas, Christmas sucked a lot of years because of him. He would lock himself away in this little 'den' we had in our old house, eat would often skip dinner, rarely eating breakfast, and he almost never eats lunch. I remember one time, he got so angry, he took his laptop, threw it down the stairs, picked it up, went back up the strairs and trew it down again. Then he picked it up and threw in the garage, we had concrete floors there, and picked up the peices again and threw it away. I cannot even relay the fear I felt that day, being the only other person home at the time, I called mom and was sitting in this little nook between the bookshelf and the adjacent wall.
He found medicine though, and it works, for the most part.
Mental issues are really not something to brush aside, when I say depression ruined my life, I mean it.

Not end of story. Keep on rolling.

Oh, and btw, I EXTREMELY DISAGREE with haruspex on this topic!

Even though I have Autism, ADD, ADHD, and Ausburger's syndrome, I don't use a mask, because I don't need one! I tend to let people know me, even in rl, including my oppinion that bullying is idiotic, stupid, rude, and wrong! Those bullies should go away, permantly!

End of story. No one bullied her, She just won't leave anyone alone.

Last thing I wish to note, your right kenny, I put a mask on too almost all the time, people in rl have never seen the side of me I have just revealed to you in these last posts, so please be respectful, it isn't easy for me to talk about my fealings to other people, I understand where chuck is comeing from. I think most people with mental issues have that 'mask', we want society to accept us, so we try to distort ourselves to 'fit in'. So be respectful to anybody you meet with mental issues, they are real people, just like you. Only they are haveing a much harder time at life.

Autism>Depression>ADD/ADHD

That is the rank.

Ó.o

and zeus, ADD and ADHD are mild compared to something like depression, I would know, I have ADHD as well. My ADHD has never been a serious problem for me. Depression on the other hand, ruined my entire life.

Darkness, with all due respect, you don't know what your talking about, I'm not asking for pity, merely clarifying by relating personal experiances. And it is harder than you can imagine, for instance, I will use my previous example. I see work, I know full well I have to do it, and yet I still don't. It isn't a contious decision, it's more subconsious, uncontrolable. Some people can control it, however, but only after much therapy, medicine, and above, an unimaginable amount of work.

and there are varying degrees of mental 'disabilities', your cousin may have a mild case, and just because he knows what he is doing may or may not be wrong, doesn't mean he is going to stop or knows how to stop, I know that I could probably do better, but it is so hard to do it though. right now, too hard, i dont even know if i'm going to be around much longer. It's that bad, I honestly can't remember the last time I was truly happy, sure I get random points of joy from gifts, or having a fealing of accomplishment, but never true joy, joy of my life, free of anguish, free of all this pain, I don't even think I've ever felt that. that is what I want. Thats all I want.... All I've ever wanted...

Kenny, yea I get where your comeing from, but I'm not using it as an excuse, and I do know I could do better, but the thing is, I don't have the effort. I don't have it because I don't want it, I don't want it, because I hate society (for the reasons already stated), and I would much rather have society, or at least my school, change, rather than them forceing me to change. Why should I, why are they considered 'normal' and I'm not. Why are they right and I'm wrong. All I have is questions and no answers, and until I get some answers, I don't really have too much a reason to change to fit their idea of 'normal'

Lolguy, peanut galleries will be deleted.

I have given Matt many chances. And every time he screwed me over. "Chuck I'm sorry" BAM back to insults.
But do you see me banning him? Do you see me all peeved off about his return?

Me and him are good friends again. This is the 3rd chance I gladly gave him, and he will most likely be forgiven again if he screws up again.

There was a time I was mad at Holly. I didn't talk to her for weeks. But I forgave her.

I used to hate Haru. But look at us now. We are not best friends, but we get along.

Me and Jake. Wow, he thinks HB is crazy for giving Holly chance after chance. Since the day we met over a year ago, we butted heads, and made peace SO MANY TIMES.

I can't help forgiving people. Holly can shoot me in the face and I would forgive her. Matt can call me every name in the book, and I'll eventually give him another chance. Haru could get me deadmined, permad, and ruin my reputation, and I would eventually forgive him. Jake and I are not friends now, but I can tell you now we will be back to being buddies in a week or two.

I will do this a thousand times for any friends, because once a friend, always a friend. At least in my eyes.

In return... Do the same for Holly. If you don't wnt to forgive, then at least shake hands.

Thankyou for reading.

The point I'm getting at is don't condemn her unless you truly understand what she is going through. You cant compare an apple and an orange, so why compare her to society's idea of 'normal'

but what is normal anyway? Normal is what ever most people are, if most of the world's population had mental disorders, than THAT would be considered 'normal' but that rant is for another time

Most of us don't have that hand. And Zeus, that is a very hard skill to master. The brain is a very powerful thing, very dificult to understand. If you don't control it, it will control you. Most people have little trouble controling it. I, and others like me, aren't so lucky.

Our brains work much differently than people without any 'disabilities' Clinical Depression for example. When a 'normal' person sees work, he or she immediately does it. When I see work, my first thought is 'How do I avoid this.' It is not a contious decision, it's just how my brain operates. Autism is not an excuse, do not treat it lightly. You have no idea how blessed you are to be, well, 'normal'.

I would give anything in the world to get rid of this damned depression. Ever since I was diagnosed (about a year or 2 ago) my life has plummeted. I hate every aspect of my life. There is nothing I can be proud of, nothing I truly enjoy. Mental Disabilities is not something to scoff at people, it's a very serious issue. It ruined my life, but in a lot of ways, it blessed my life too. People with these kind of issues typically see the world in a different way, we are, in a lot of ways, much wiser than a lot of people. However, most times, because of our outward appearence, noone cares to take the time to look deeper and see that side of us.

Most people are completely fine with society, I'm not talking about the US Government. I'm talking about the very basis of society. I, on the other hand, look deeper. I question the authority of men to choose who will live, and who will die. Who will be rich, and who will not. I question the use of money, why should we need money to survive, why do the poor get deprived of food, the very basis of life? Why do people feal they need to be in power for the world to be a better place? Why do we need to Control. Theres the key word, Control, people need to be in control of other people in order to feal better about themselves. Even if their intentions were good, and they felt they were helping the world, they were still wrong.

How many of you 'normal' people ever thought about any of that, even for an instance, I doubt many of you have, because you people have it easy. You don't bite the hand the feeds you.

Second comment:
How many times have you said she can't control it? I have Add and Adhd crossed type. There's something caled Coping Skills Try it sometimes.

I never really knew her that much so I won't judge, but bullying usn't cool :I

I have gone to 3 different schools, I never made a single, true, really close friend, only a few aquintences. The rest of the student body either pointed out a lack of heigyene (which isnt really true :I), that I'm gay (noone in rl knows I'm bi.....), or the fact that i couldn't beat up a cat, even if i tried :l. This has always been with me, in my first school, it got to the point where i was literally a disease, if i ran into somebody, or shook their hand, they felt like they needed to take a shower or wash their hands or something :l. So I have never really had a true friend in the world.

Yea, i know what it's like, i have Clinical Depression and ADHD, both of those contribute to the fact that I'm flunking school and my social issues. It's harder than most people realise, or care to realise. For instamce, with my Depression, it is very, very hard for me to get the motivation to do anything, such as homework. Most, if not all people immediately write it off as laziness and yell at me to do it, then punish me when I don't. In school, my teachers say they want to help, but all they are doing is making it worse for me when I don't do the homework, I thought school was a place of learning, not useless work. So if homework is a detriment to my education, why force me into doing it? There is no point, but they don't care, because they don't understand. They think that one size fits all. It doesn't. One style of learning may be helpful for some, but not others. Apparently however, us 'special' kids need to suck it up and conform to the 'regular' style of learning.

What I'm getting at, is your judging her by how you feal, her mindset is COMPLETELY different. People with mental 'disabilities' (I use the word disabilities losely) think and operate much differently from the rest of you. We are not 'abnormal', we do not 'lack' social skills, we are merely different.

actually, i liked twinkie, i wish she were here

Chuck, dude, you are basically now turning this into a pity fest, which this isnt.

This is a case of someone getting way too many second chances, and noone else getting the same treatment.

Dont use the bullcrap excuse of "But her autism makes her do things" if that is the case, someone with a case of autism that bad should not probably be on a site like this in the first place due to what just took place here.

You are making this into more of a spectacle than it actually needs to be, and putting blames where they really shouldnt be.

Dont drag other admins into this, especially when most of the admins really dont care either way and are just voicing an opinion from...an admin point of view.

Interesting.

Yep. Least Commander can figure it out. Good job for calling em out on it.

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Me and her both have autism. I understand what she goes through. I was just like her when I was her age. Me and her are very close. She really feels like a daughter to me. I understand she sometimes gets on people's nerves, and that's not up to me to decide, but just ignore her. I mean, she was banned for a typo a few days ago, and intentional or not, there needed to be a warning issued first.
Golly, some of you admins make a fuss when I ban someone for saying the f-word without warning, but when Holly was banned without warning for a POSSIBLE accident, "oh it's ok. We don't like her, so we won't say anything even though it was unfair".
"oh btw, my excuse is that I stole COMMANDER's terms on his bio, so that now he can't defend her"

ENOUGH

Hmmm..... This is sad. So basically, if you don't like someone, you bully them into messing up and getting punished, for something they can't control? What's wrong with you!?! Even if you don't like her, you don't have to put up with it! There are block buttons, and you can always go to a different room. Now, for a little story. You see, my current girlfriend is scizophrenic. Basically, she sees and hears random things, causing her to spaz out at times unless medicated. Although this is technically a "mental disease", and uncontrollable, she was mercilessly picked on at school. It got to the point where she attempted to commit suicide. However, her own disease acted up on her at the last minute, basically saving her life. I had never noticed her before then, even though she lived in the same neighborhood as me. After the attempt, my family visited hers, and I got to actually talk to her. Turns out, she was a VERY nice person, who was just tired of all the petty cruelty that kids can and eagerly inflict on people. She was pulled out of school, (the bullies being dealt with, of course) and I visited her couple of days, mainly at her parent's request. After a while, we began to bond, and my visits became more frequent. She's improved a lot since then, even to the point where I can occasionally catch a rare smile or laugh from her, even though she hides from most other teenagers due to fear... Basically, what I'm saying is to be nice to shunned people, most of them are actually very good people and can be your best friends if you just show a little compassion, or even just understanding! Wow.... Sorry for rambling, but I just had to get the point across. Anyone who thinks otherwise can just leave the rest of us alone.

Jake - Autism, means you're not amazingly skilled at socialising and things. So maybe, just maybe, she was just trying to be friendly?

This is so sad. I campaigned to get her back! Just so she could be bullied! Meh! People are really that horrible? On this safe, friendly community? Pah, that's just stupid. I have seen some of this, I didn't know it was so serious though!
To sum it up: Meh...

I just try and stay out of all this mess, but you can't blame everything Twinkle does wrong on her autism. I think Zues is telling the truth, what if it is Twinkle starting all the arguments?

blah, im not getting permad

Jake, ever got the feeling she might be trying to have a friendly conversation with you?

She's not permad
Only banned.

It took this long to say the amount of unbans she has got is unfair?

Woop Dee Doo. Did you mention WHY she was perma'd? She was harassing me. She looks for drama by mailing me and trying to talk to me, Imo this is the fakest blog i saw...

Also to add to this, the below comments are not at all meant to be mean, hurtful or anything to that extent.

We are all sad to an point to see her go, I liked her randomness, and she had funny moments.

But, the below two statements still stand as a truthful opinion on the matter.

I agree with Haru. -gasp- SHOCKER!

I don't care for Twinkle in the slightest, but I told her the civil thing to do would be to drop our past differences and move on. I have. She claims to have changed, but on her first day back, she gets banned.

I see no change.

Doing things like calling Zeus out, are things that are uncalled for and childish as hell. She HAS been given way too many chances. Ban/perma/unperma/admin/deadmin/perma.... It's all getting redundant. When I started on this site in August of 2010 (I was VampChick at the time, she was admin), She has been banned like 20 times... and permad 5. Thats only been 4 months. I feel that if she can be here, even when HULL said she shouldn't be, then I had another perma'd member unperma'd too. Welcome back DSi Hamburger. He has every right to be here too.

I know it was hard banning her, but ya know what... If banning her is supposed to be for her own good... then she needs a perma... Again.

Sorry you had to do it man, and it does suck that she has to go.

But.

She had multiple bans, multiple permas, and a bazillion second chances.

As much as she likes this site, it really isnt fair for other members here to not get the same chances she got, that is where the anger that alot of other members feel.

It was a kick in the proverbial nuts to have one singled out person cry and beg their way out of multiple permas/bans, and honestly that just makes banning null and void.

With that said, sorry she is gone from here, but it is for the best for her psyche.

Glad to know SOMEONE cares

twinkle calling out zeus is her looking for trouble as well so she cant play the victim card when she gets what shes asking for

♪Love is a battlefield♪ ;D

Lol Battlefield :F

Haaah. STUPID BULLIES. Well, people can't piss me off easily on here, usually it just backfires.

It's an autism thing... We can't help it.
I'm addicted as well.

people shouldn't lurk in the past, live now, and enjoy it. Make friends, even if they have made a mistake. Cause you'll miss out on everything that happens.