I only believe in what can be proved. You can't litteraly prove God exists. You can believe and hope he exists. But you can't prove he is real.
My opinion↑
Quoth Mr.Gangsta:Link and Robo both your arguments are terrible, and both are ill informed, trolling, and not to be put here.
Dark you have absolutly no right to say that, if your so ffixed on proof, wheres your proof...
Once again, no bashing, and religion isnt about proof, its about faith, so if you do or dont believe thats your business, no one needs anyone to come in and tell them their wrong because you know what, robo and link, your both wrong.
Sorry if you think I'm trolling, but I'm not. And I don't really like how you blatantly call me "wrong". I don't think that's the best thing to e telling people, that what they believe is outright wrong.
Quoth Robowarrior:Quoth Mr.Gangsta:Quoth Panzer123:Join the church of the flying spaghetti monster.
Hell no, we hate the spaghetti monster church its all about lasagna church!
Can I interject and raise the idea of a pizza church?
Also, it's amazed me how open-minded Mr. Gangsta has been. Not once has he bashed anyone for their beliefs. In fact, he's argued on the side of some Christians. This is what religious discussion should be.
If only every member here was as like-minded as you =P
Thank you so much! I wish more people were as nice and open-minded like you! I dont see why some people (linkdarkani) have to be as cruel as to critisize religion so harshly! I love Santa Claus! Do you hate [underline] Christ [/underline] mas! Thats my favorite holiday!
Quoth sistemZ:Religion actually ruins your life, and in my opinion a whole load of lies.
That's why I hate RE, because in my opinion the teacher it telling me lies. I just want to live a normal life, not do weird actions in a building praying to gods, or singing...
Luckily, I wasn't grown up to believe all this stuff.
The other reason I am atheist is because Christians have their own views on that religion, like some Christians believe in some storys of the bible. Those storys aren't logically true though, because they are IMPOSSIBLE. I am a logic person. I don't believe that snakes talk, or some person makes a boat and floods the world. Also, as it says in the bible to love everyone, I actually find that pretty hard, I don't know about you.
Closed-minded and ignorant comments like yours are what frustrate me with atheists. Have you ever read the Bible, the Quran, or any religious works, or do you just state what people have told you? Do you realize that many religious stories are actually allegories or parables for moral teachings? The stories are not meant to be taken literally but are, instead, meant to explain the world to simple people of the time who would not explain, otherwise. Just look at Jesus' apostles; these guys were bumbling fools, not educated elites. Jesus had to explain things to them numerous times to get the messages through their thick heads.
The reason I am a Christian is because when I looked at all the facts, I realized it would take MORE faith to NOT believe in a higher power. The universe, to me, is a vast place just too elegant to have happened by chance. A good documentary about this for anyone with an open mind is "The Case for Jesus Christ". In this, an atheist decided to look at all the facts because he wondered why his wife started attending Church. After travelling the world and speaking with all sorts of experts, he came to his conclusion to become a Christian.
Quoth Mr.Gangsta:Quoth Panzer123:Join the church of the flying spaghetti monster.
Hell no, we hate the spaghetti monster church its all about lasagna church!
Can I interject and raise the idea of a pizza church?
Also, it's amazed me how open-minded Mr. Gangsta has been. Not once has he bashed anyone for their beliefs. In fact, he's argued on the side of some Christians. This is what religious discussion should be.
If only every member here was as like-minded as you =P
Join the church of the flying spaghetti monster.
Quoth Drwho15:"God and Jesus loves you" yeah right, they would allow a human being to suffer for six months why his insides shutdown in slow an angonising pain.
wow... SRSLY GUY? thats the worse excuse for non-belief. [no wantin argueness just wanna b heard...] my mom has BOTH BREAST AND BONE CANCER AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH 4 HOUSE FIRES← [no believe me? ask princessawsome11 my irl bff]but i still go to church, read the bible, and have huge faith. witch is what you lack sir. [You no deserve an epic username like "drwho" lol jk >]
"God and Jesus loves you" yeah right, they would allow a human being to suffer for six months why his insides shutdown in slow an angonising pain.wow... SRSLY GUY? thats the worse excuse for non-belief. [no wantin argueness just wanna b heard...] my mom has BOTH BREAST AND BONE CANCER AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH 4 HOUSE FIRES← [no believe me? ask princessawsome11 my irl bff]but i still go to church, read the bible, and have huge faith. witch is what you lack sir. [You no deserve an epic username like "drwho" lol jk >]
Some people don't realize that science IS God.true. true. did you know, that the water cycle is in the Bible? when i find the verse ill let chu know...
And you can't read the bible with a litteral mind. You have to read it with an open heart.
I just have one request...
Can at least one person spell Jehovah's Witnesses correctly?
I just have one request...
Can at least one person spell Jehovah's Witnesses correctly?
This is a great blog really opens my eyes to other beliefs. One question though. To Atheists how do you believe the world came to be and people were made? I have been wondering for a long time.
On a different topic.
(I would like to note that these are not religious beliefs but facts.)
Christianity, Jewdiasm, and Islam are all linked. Jews got a messiah, Jesus, and became Christians. Some Jews did not believe Jesus was the messiah, and they are still waiting. Islam is similar to both, they all believe in one god is the main thing. I will not extend to how I believe Islam is linked with all this. Why? Because it's not a fact but, a religious belief and I don't want to get flamed.
Quoth Winter Icefox:This blog has the most HB's comments ive seen in a blog....
Religion fails, period.
I sort of agree that people can believe in what they want, but sometimes it goes to far with the damn preaching.
Oh no, it's HullBreach, again!
Your second paragraph is the expression of your beliefs. Isn't that preaching in and of itself?
Wow, there is a hot debate going on here.
Well..
Since a lot of people said what i was going to say i will just leave my conclusion here.
I am not Atheist because i believe in "YHWH" or "Jehovah", i choose to reject the Church because it is commanded by Men, and they are not different, they are just Men, just like me and you. Religion created a lot of problems more than it created solutions, i think if everybody just believed The Bible or Quran or Torah (whichever their culture adopt) which have Millenniums of story and are obviously special, without Men commanding these beliefs (To mention one, the Pope.) everything would be better. Today Religion is just a fight to have more following one side, without saying the corruption it obviously has. Maybe the Religions in the past (very past) were there more for their real meanings, but today Men screwed it up and now its mainly made of corruption and power.
Quoth Mr.Gangsta:ive never seen Hull on a blog so much! Commander, yes we use a religous calender, but people have been pushing B.C.E Before common era, o and jesus (historically) was born in 6 A.D.
Hey athiest guy down there calling christians dumb, go away! you to sistemz, fighting with Hull is getting you no where!
Most religions also took small snip its of the magna carta, as did the U.S constutution which also is semi-religous. I have also noticed that someone said "cinderella will be thought of as a true story" I completly agree!
You did a good job at opening a discussion.
No one knows the exact year of Jesus' birth because the calendar systems have changed over the centuries. We use a solar calendar with leap years now (Gregorian calendar); the ancient Middle East used a lunar calendar. In an attempt to match up the calendars centuries later, several years were "lost". It is believed that Jesus was born in April sometime between the years 4 BCE and 6 CE, making the BC and AD year systems of modern Christianity approximates.
ive never seen Hull on a blog so much! Commander, yes we use a religous calender, but people have been pushing B.C.E Before common era, o and jesus (historically) was born in 6 A.D.
Hey athiest guy down there calling christians dumb, go away! you to sistemz, fighting with Hull is getting you no where!
Most religions also took small snip its of the magna carta, as did the U.S constutution which also is semi-religous. I have also noticed that someone said "cinderella will be thought of as a true story" I completly agree!
I only believe in what can be proved. You can't litteraly prove God exists. You can believe and hope he exists. But you can't prove he is real.
My opinion↑
Quoth Admiralquote]Quoth Skittles:So you don't believe in gravity? Or dark matter? <img src="/chatrooms/smilies/alien1.gif" alt="" style="-webkit-user-select: none; ">
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<br>Hey germs aren't real. I can't see them or hear them or feel them. All I can see is the effect of their actions. Wind isn't real either. All I can see are trees moving. It's not really wind.
Dude. Dont call all Christians selfish. You just think: "Oh all those annoying selfish Christians!" not all Christians are bad! Take note of that.
Quoth Skittles:So you don't believe in gravity? Or dark matter? <img src="/chatrooms/smilies/alien1.gif" alt="" style="-webkit-user-select: none; ">
Hey germs aren't real. I can't see them or hear them or feel them. All I can see is the effect of their actions. Wind isn't real either. All I can see are trees moving. It's not really wind.
Everyone idiolizes something which is one of the top 3 sins, but its okay because you can pay a priest 50 bucks to forgive all your sins, because priest can talk to god -_- really....... ridicolous..... Its funny because my stepdad is an RPC, a Religous Program specialist Chief, and he hates me because im athiest..actually, its not a sin to idle someone, you just cant worship someone.
Quoth COMMANDER:Some people don't realize that science IS God.Yes it is, i love God with all my heart.
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<br>And you can't read the bible with a litteral mind. You have to read it with an open heart.
Completely true.
Wow just because you have power you have to cower behind it because I'm winning the argument
Proves my point.
The encyclopaedia is spread over loads of books.
There are plenty of books that are spread into more books. The bible is a book nothing more. I guess if books are real I will go into my wardrobe because sooner or later if I believe I'll find narnia. -Trollface-
Quoth HullBreachquote]Quoth Drwho15:
Haha fail. You made up the 50%. I know plenty of scientists none of them are not religious.
I'm hoping someone could crack the davinchi code. That will put an end to all religion.
Face it religion is dying out.
One day in 10,000 years someone will unearth a cinderella book and think it was true. The bible is noticing but a book and if you think books are the truth then rumplestiltskin must be real.
Quoth a.smithquote]Quoth $ Big Money $:Lol there are miricles in every religion. they must be all right!!! no. Their not.
Could you perform miracles?
Quoth $ Big Money $quote]Jesus was for a fact true, historians wrote about him, not only the apostleses. What he did drove me to believe god is real.
That's why I think religions are fake. Also, where's the proof to the storys and everything? I haven't seen any.
This blog has the most HB's comments ive seen in a blog....
Religion fails, period.
I sort of agree that people can believe in what they want, but sometimes it goes to far with the damn preaching.
Some people don't realize that science IS God.
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<br>And you can't read the bible with a litteral mind. You have to read it with an open heart.
I believe religion explains the WHAT and WHY; science explains the HOW and WHEN.
Quoth Waffle Kingquote]Most people believe science and religion are two separate things. Which is completely retarded. Religion explains the world in a logical way. It's just heavy with symbolism and metaphors. If you just think God pulled the Universe out of his rear and said "I can has Universe" then you really don't know anything about religion.That was actually.. Quite true. xD[/quote]
What people don't realize is that the world is not a very logical place.Waffle does have a heart . lol
Quoth Waffle Kingkay, going off of your logic, you don't exist. I've never seen you. I've read about you. I've read about what you've said. But I've never seen you, and things don't exist unless you can see them or hear them. You're just a stupid non-existent being people have made up, like the tooth fairy. Logical?Waffle King has a point there
Actually, it is pretty logical. Even seeing or hearing something doesn't prove that it exists. You can't even prove the chair you're sitting on is real (hypothetical chair).
Most people believe science and religion are two separate things. Which is completely retarded. Religion explains the world in a logical way. It's just heavy with symbolism and metaphors. If you just think God pulled the Universe out of his rear and said "I can has Universe" then you really don't know anything about religion.That was actually.. Quite true. xD
I don't understand it though - there are different religions, and they all believe in different God(s). If they all believe in different ones, there can't be a real one, since they don't believe in the many there are from other religions.
That's why I think religions are fake. Also, where's the proof to the storys and everything? I haven't seen any.
I don't understand it though - there are different religions, and they all believe in different God(s). If they all believe in different ones, there can't be a real one, since they don't believe in the many there are from other religions.Thing before you speak, And trash our religions..
That's why I think religions are fake. Also, where's the proof to the storys and everything? I haven't seen any.
What people don't think about is when religion first started some of them were stupid. None of them knew about science, space or magic..
But as science is progressing religion is loosing a lot of followers.
All of Jesus "Tricks" could be easily done again. Darren Brown proved this.
Religion actually ruins your life, and in my opinion a whole load of lies.
That's why I hate RE, because in my opinion the teacher it telling me lies. I just want to live a normal life, not do weird actions in a building praying to gods, or singing...
Luckily, I wasn't grown up to believe all this stuff.
The other reason I am atheist is because Christians have their own views on that religion, like some Christians believe in some storys of the bible. Those storys aren't logically true though, because they are IMPOSSIBLE. I am a logic person. I don't believe that snakes talk, or some person makes a boat and floods the world. Also, as it says in the bible to love everyone, I actually find that pretty hard, I don't know about you.
I'm fine with atheists, When they don't trash what some believe, Then i'll get pissy
So now your contradicting yourself. You said you don't see any blogs causing bashing. Yet you just said this one is. Great job
I've seen A few hateful comments. Just a reminder, this blog isn't about bashing, agreeing, disagreeing, hating, recommending, promoting, or boasting about one's faith. This blog is about getting along and coming together, regardless of religion. Coming together to get along and make new friends.
<br>I expect future comments to behave in this style.
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<br>Mr. Gangsta wrote this blog so he could try to open our eyes. Not to cause conflict. Not "oh my religion is better than yours", "Oh come on, there's no such thing".
Jesus was for a fact true, historians wrote about him, not only the apostleses. What he did drove me to believe god is real.
Christianity is real. God made the world and Jesus died and rose again on the third day and Jesus did walk on water and Jesus did feed 5000 people with only 5 fish and two loaves of bread and many more things. The Bible has proof! It had profesys (please excuse my mispelling things) that came true and much much more! P.S. I'm not complaining or pushing my religion in your face like some people do, I'm just telling you why I believe in Christianity.
Quoth Lucas7:But jesslo, to see real proof, wouldn't you want to SEE it all, so you really can belive it?
Oh... I do not want an arguement arising!
In truth, I have no religion. It's difficult to explain, I guess. I belive in diffrent things at diffrent times...?
This blog, also, tells things out really nicely. The way you explain it is just so... true.
Were not making an argument. God has shown me he is real by healing my Mom when she was in the hospital by giving me a loving family giving me food giving me water giving me life and giving me freedom. He gave everyone all those things just because he loves us!
Everyone idiolizes something which is one of the top 3 sins, but its okay because you can pay a priest 50 bucks to forgive all your sins, because priest can talk to god -_- really....... ridicolous..... Its funny because my stepdad is an RPC, a Religous Program specialist Chief, and he hates me because im athiest..
Christianity is real. God made the world and Jesus died and rose again on the third day and Jesus did walk on water and Jesus did feed 5000 people with only 5 fish and two loaves of bread and many more things. The Bible has proof! It had profesys (please excuse my mispelling things) that came true and much much more! P.S. I'm not complaining or pushing my religion in your face like some people do, I'm just telling you why I believe in Christianity.
What people don't realize is that the world is not a very logical place.YA THINK?
Quoth Lucas7:But jesslo, to see real proof, wouldn't you want to SEE it all, so you really can belive it?
Oh... I do not want an arguement arising!
In truth, I have no religion. It's difficult to explain, I guess. I belive in diffrent things at diffrent times...?
This blog, also, tells things out really nicely. The way you explain it is just so... true.
Were not making an argument. God has shown me he is real by healing my Mom when she was in the hospital by giving me a loving family giving me food giving me water giving me life and giving me freedom. He gave everyone all those things just because he loves us!
Most mainstream Christians are the reason there are atheists. They drive people away with their confused dogmatism and hatred towards people who don't believe. Fact is, they don't know how to talk to someone who doesn't believe. All they know is "you'll burn in Hell if you don't change!"
It makes me sick. A Christian shouldn't be that way.
But jesslo, to see real proof, wouldn't you want to SEE it all, so you really can belive it?
Oh... I do not want an arguement arising!
In truth, I have no religion. It's difficult to explain, I guess. I belive in diffrent things at diffrent times...?
This blog, also, tells things out really nicely. The way you explain it is just so... true.
I'm only stating my thoughts, bro. Don't get all worked up. Chill, bro.
Eh, I believe in some greater being out of the fear of the implications of the opposite being true, but I don't know how to name it/them and I don't just want to absorb the beliefs around me.
Going off Waffle King's thing, I totally agree. Creationism vs. Darwinism for example, perhaps cells were created by a god with the intent of eventually evolving into more complex organisms.
But whatever, that's what I think.
Okay, going off of your logic, you don't exist. I've never seen you. I've read about you. I've read about what you've said. But I've never seen you, and things don't exist unless you can see them or hear them. You're just a stupid non-existent being people have made up, like the tooth fairy. Logical?
I'm fine with atheists, When they don't trash what some believe, Then i'll get pissy
Oh my! That's the 4th f-bomb I deleted!
Jk jk XD
The reason I am an athiest is not because 'I hate god' as ive been told, it is because I look at the world logically, I don't believe in anything unless I can see, or hear it.
Most mainstream Christians are the reason there are atheists. They drive people away with their confused dogmatism and hatred towards people who don't believe. Fact is, they don't know how to talk to someone who doesn't believe. All they know is "you'll burn in Hell if you don't change!"
It makes me sick. A Christian shouldn't be that way.
A catholic asked me what it was like to be atheist. I asked if he believed in Islam. He said no. I said like that.
Although I'm a christain, I understand your point. I see a lot of Christians that make us look bad.
I can see why you're an atheist, and I don't blame you.