Admins VS. Members By KingofDarkness

By @KingofDarkness
POSTED: 15 Jan 2012 19:10
CATEGORY: This Community
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Rules, they’re everywhere. They’re at school, work, the streets, buildings and even websites such as DsiPaint have rules. Rules were created to be followed and to keep order and peace. For such rules to be enforced, authority was created. For a website such as DsiPaint, admins of all sorts were created to keep the peace. But has peace been disrupted by the members? Or are the admins cracking up?
I interviewed both admins and members, including the site owner, HullBreach. We’ll start off with the admins opinions on the members and rules of DsiPaint. All the admins or former admins were asked the same following question, what do you think of the members and rules of DsiPaint?

Former admin of DsiPaint, CrymsonLyinn said:

Members have become unruly and disregarding of the rules and of the authority of the admins. Basically, the admins are doing what they were given the jobs to do. To correct and punish the rule breakers. Being a former admin, we weren't strict enough when I was there. Only a few were... Haruspex, Skunkman, Me, Jabinator... To name some. I am actually happy to see the admins stepping up and doing their jobs adequately and effectively. Maybe the members will finally get the idea that there are rules. And they must be followed.

MysticalZoey, a current high ranking admin of DsiPaint told this novel:

DsiPaint has its social class.
Overlords
Admins
Well-known members
Normal members
Admin suck ups/ mini modders
Role-players
noobs
noobs that are always banned
Skunkman
It’s quite sad that people pretty much follow this chart, but it’s true. No one has respect for each other. I see everyone equally, but others see everyone according to that chart, which is not okay. I see the stupidest fights every day.

Noob: haii guise. im new here. add mii 2 ur frendz list.

Normal member: Noob. Go kill youself.

Noob: u jerk. u dunt kno mii!!1!one!!11!eleven!!shift1!

Now, is that really necessary? I think not. Some members haven’t realized that this is just the interwebz and take this site too seriously. If you’re one of those people, listen to me.

DsiPaint is NOT your life.
You will not DIE if you are banned for 24 hours.
You will probably NEVER become admin.

So go outside, take a nice long walk, and go see a therapist. This is just a website. If everyone saw each other equally, there would be less problems, but I’m pretty sure everyone is going to ignore this is continue doing that they want to do. Trolololol.

Rules.

The rules are pretty much put into stupid form. If you can’t follow them, then you’re an idiot.

RULE LIST:
- Admins can use discretion to ban members 24hr for: swearing, spamming, porn, racism, dodging bans, trolling, flaming, etc.
- Please show respect for other members.
- Members are promoted as needed, so no admin requests.

How can it get easier than that? I agree with the rules fully. As crazy and obnoxious I am, I have never been banned once on this site, nor do I have any alts. If I can follow the rules, you can too.

Even COMMANDER, one of the most respected admins of DsiPaint had to say this:

I think the rules are very fair.
I think some admins are strict, and I think some admins are just plain morons. But a few, such as me (^_^), Mystical Zoey, and even HullBreach are the kinds of admins we need to see more.

Members, yes, they all don’t like the rules. They all think admins are the bad guys. I was once their age where I thought any kind authority was stupid simply because I couldn’t do any of the fun (dangerous) things I wanted to do. And that’s precisely why members are like this.
They cuss, get banned, and think they are the victims.

That’s just one side of the story though, here is the “members” side of the story, and two is always better than one? The members were asked, What do you think about the admins and rules of DsiPaint?

This is what cudd033 had to say:

Well, I think it’s stupid... I mean I get banned for no apparent reason by admins... I agree no-one should be cussing but, I hate the admins... there I said it; it would be ok if they picked good admins to do the job, but half the people they pick are retards.

DCsHottestChic, another DsiPaint user, said this:

Well, admins are stupid and they need to be nice. Every time I come with a complaint, they shrug it off like its nothing and I hate that so much, and they need to treat us as equals. Also, there should be a day where everyone would vote a new admin to recruit and an old admin to unadminify.

Starligh5, the last member I asked said this:

My opinion on admins is that they can be fair at times but not all the time, sometimes they think they are banning and that they are doing the right thing but they are not, they are only banning you because they think you have done something wrong. Also I once go banned for no reason because I had the same IP address as someone who got banned.

And finally, the last person I asked was HullBreach himself, and he was asked, what do you think of the rules, your admins and the members of DsiPaint? He said:

That’s a big question.

I’ve had to put many of the rules in place because immature individuals insist on posting pornographic or incendiary content. Those rules are the framework by which admins oversee the websites. Like all groups of people, there are good and bad admins and members. I get complaints all the time, and I generally just brush them off as being annoyances because I see that people need to learn to work things out on their own unless it’s a really critical matter. Unless either an admin or a member commits an horrific act, I like to stay out of it so that I can work on the infrastructure of the websites instead of micromanaging the bickering of others.

So now that you have the opinions of the members, the admins and the man himself, where does that lead us? Are the admins too strict, are the members taking too much for granted? Or is HullBreach saying that he is tired of being bugged about silly admin VS member problems when he is trying to work on the sites infrastructure?

+21 -3

Monstercat
23 Aug 2015 06:24

Ah, memories.

KingofDarkness
23 Aug 2015 15:00
In reply to Monstercat

Agreed! The good old days of SDK...

Princess Konata
16 Apr 2012 09:01

Lol, this comment is late.
Anyways, I think some admins feel like something someone did was wrong, so they decided to ban so it won't offend or annoy people, but others (newer admins) can't help it and go ban crazy.Just think about this: You're a new admin and people have bullied you and you feel that using adminship is perfect revenge.So you ban them and you have too much fun with and make up excuses to ban people.It happens, no lie.
Still, there are admins that aren't that fair, but really what can I say?Some admins try to intimidate users so they don't get picked on because of their experiences with bullying, though they don't know the amount of power they truly have and that is pretty much no difference to others.
Finally some supposed idiotic admins are terrible, but they're trying to defend themselves from bullys with whatever the higga power they have.
So yah, that's what I think, san.
By the way I'm not trying to defend admins.
Have a happy day! :3

Chanishyy
25 Mar 2012 03:53

Favorotism. That's what I got to say. Admins let their best friends get away with stuff (most of them). Then on the other side they ban the people they don't care about. Like what DC said, treat all of us equally. Those admins, well I think they are downright idiots and need to go to leadership school.

DSiguy321
18 Mar 2012 23:25

i agree that there should be rules, but some admins are complete idiots.

DSiguy321
18 Mar 2012 23:23

Quoth Clue2.0:

This blog sucks I mean really why do admins ban cuz their idiots I mean GUH I got nothing more

and im guessing you've been banned "4 noe apprnt rizon broo"

KingofDarkness
05 Feb 2012 22:06

Quoth Clue2.0:

This blog sucks I mean really why do admins ban cuz their idiots I mean GUH I got nothing more

Cool story bro.

Clue2.0
05 Feb 2012 19:00

This blog sucks I mean really why do admins ban cuz their idiots I mean GUH I got nothing more

Mavric
25 Jan 2012 02:55

Good job. People here do take things for granted. This also helps my point of view nice blog.

PickleFace
25 Jan 2012 02:08

Very nice. Rules are everywhere, and everyone should follow them. Most people I know do not, although they know not to... But whatever. Their loss. I'll be getting into Ohio State University andthey won't... So, no big deal. Oh, I'm off-topic, I know. Oh well. +1

Ultimatedude13
23 Jan 2012 21:53

Admin makes me no life. Too popular

betsil
21 Jan 2012 20:38

lol epicnes

Orchid
20 Jan 2012 18:15

Quoth COMMAND Chief:

This made me poop rainbows .-.

And your comment made my IQ drop 10 points. I agree though with the admins, members need to learn when not to be complete idiots and follow the rules.

KylennR
19 Jan 2012 14:15

Quoth DCsHottestChic:

Somebody I know just got banned for "not roleplaying in the RP chat". She was waiting for someone to RP back and she was talking to the others as she waited. Now shes banned forbeing friendly.

Ahh, but couldn't she have been being friendly in a non-role playing chat?

Ginger 115
18 Jan 2012 02:38

*please keep and arguments, spelling fail, and some of my grammar is wrong... hopefully a grammar-nazi won't see it o-o

Ginger 115
18 Jan 2012 02:35

sorry, *please keep

Ginger 115
18 Jan 2012 02:31

Quoth PosessedCarson:

It's funny. Go to the help desk and under "resolved" you'll see like 10 questions along the lines of 'omg I got band 4 no reson' You new guys need a lesson or two. If an admin becomes an admin it's because they have proven to be responsible. Granted, if you became chatmin, what's the first thing you want to do? Ban someone. Remember that newer admins usually have a shorter fuse. And to admins, warns are usually best to use before banning. We don't want to end up like where you type 's---' and you meant to type 'shot' and immediately receive a perma. I mean, some users deserve a little slack every now and then.

yes, pleasekeep this site from becoming DSiCade #2! we shouldn't even be having these arguements! after all my nearly 2 years at SDK, I've never seen a ban that the reason hasn't had a reason where the person getting banned didn't break some rule, that admin might have just been a little bit more strict, but I just hate seeing the word "perma", we don't need this, we can have small arguements here and there, but it shouldn't get this big.

oh yeah, to all you noobs out there, go kill yourself

jk

DCsHottestChic
17 Jan 2012 21:21

Somebody I know just got banned for "not roleplaying in the RP chat". She was waiting for someone to RP back and she was talking to the others as she waited. Now shes banned forbeing friendly.

Chanishyy
17 Jan 2012 18:12

I think members win because sometimes admins just take it over the top not all of the admins SOME with due respect. Its not as noobs its your reactions admin for example:

New member:Hello,I'm new in dis site?
Admin: Oh here's a noob!
New member, stop being a noob!

That is disrespetful for us too how do you think we feel?

KingofDarkness
17 Jan 2012 11:43

Quoth Kion127:

I couldn't help but notice you only gave the interviews of admins. :/

Cudd033, DCsHottestChic and starligh5 are not admins.

a.smith
17 Jan 2012 08:04

Quoth SirQuinn:

Perhaps older members would of been suitable people. They`ve been on the longest, so they know more.

Good blog btw. I felt that the admins had better points. The "average members sounded redundant and stupid. Their opinions were displayed with horrific grammar and no true facts. It felt like a bash session. +1

About the top part of that comment, older members will be better because theyve seen how admins have changeed into ban happy freaks.

wowrofl
17 Jan 2012 04:23

tl;dr
does the title ask which are better?
if I recall correctly admins can ban

SirQuinn
17 Jan 2012 02:05

Perhaps older members would of been suitable people. They`ve been on the longest, so they know more.

Good blog btw. I felt that the admins had better points. The "average members sounded redundant and stupid. Their opinions were displayed with horrific grammar and no true facts. It felt like a bash session. +1

Kion127
17 Jan 2012 00:32

I couldn't help but notice you only gave the interviews of admins. :/

RaptorofDoom
16 Jan 2012 20:20

Lol. Pick better people to interview.

Problem is not respect. It's the current administration. I can support this with facts. By "facts" I don't mean sly attacks on other moderators, I mean personal experiences.

LinkZelda
16 Jan 2012 18:52

It would be better if the people you interviewed were given anonymity.

Dog1209
16 Jan 2012 18:40

its true y cant we get along

Dog1209
16 Jan 2012 18:39

Quoth RinCanFlyy:

Why can't we just get along? I mean really! This is just a website! Never forget that. No one here is perfect. :'3 I mean seriously who cares if a new person comes on? They can be the coolest person you ever meet, they may become an admin! Think about it ALL OF US WERE ONCE A NEW PERSON ON THIS SITE. Enough said ._.

Tora.Silver
16 Jan 2012 16:18

Never before have I loved MysticalZoey so much. What she said is absolutely and without a doubt true. This is what I hate most about the people of DSiPaint, the constant arrogance and bullying of the lower class members.
There was recently news of a young girl in India who was born into the lowest social caste there is, the untouchables. She walked past a higher caste individual and her shadow fell across him. His reaction? He pushed her into some burning coals by the road.
Do we really want to have this type of "caste" system on DSiPaint? All it does is cause strife.

Zoey, underneath your moobs lies Dr. Phil.

MylesMH
16 Jan 2012 16:07

Wow, this is pretty informative. Being a semi-new member myself, I can say I haven't really experienced any of the things mentioned here (admins provoking members, or people whining about being banned). But I guess I'm still an SDK virgin, if that sounds right.

I've never had too much trouble from any of the admins. From the posts I've read and the two I've seen in the chatrooms, they all sound and look like they're doing their jobs as best they can.

But it's a double edged sword, really...

Gym Leader Mark
16 Jan 2012 15:52

If you're banned, you clearly have done something to break the rules. There is no other reason, and if there is, I suggest you take the twenty-four hour ban like a big kid and move on with your life.

/reason number six that keeps me from the chatrooms

jim12356
16 Jan 2012 15:47

Rules are fair. But some idiots don't listen to them. There are alot of 7 year olds on here that don't know alot about cyberbullying.

Moofish
16 Jan 2012 15:46

Basically, almost everybody said, "We have good admins, and bad admins."

InvaderBiZ11
16 Jan 2012 15:22

Quoth PosessedCarson:

It's funny. Go to the help desk and under "resolved" you'll see like 10 questions along the lines of 'omg I got band 4 no reson' You new guys need a lesson or two. If an admin becomes an admin it's because they have proven to be responsible. Granted, if you became chatmin, what's the first thing you want to do? Ban someone. Remember that newer admins usually have a shorter fuse. And to admins, warns are usually best to use before banning. We don't want to end up like DSiCade where you type 's---' and you meant to type 'shot' and immediately receive a perma. I mean, some users deserve a little slack every now and then.

I said blood tasted good in a rp and Nite perma'd me,Ever since,I've liked this site,And yesh,I hope the admins do they're jobs better

DarkGuy101
16 Jan 2012 14:27

Well I Agree with this blog, but there is one Blogmin who dosent deserve it... Takis Teh Greek, Un-Featuring most blogs, and cybering in chatroom, +more...

KingofDarkness
16 Jan 2012 11:16

Quoth HullBreach:

Let's all relax and have fun!

Agreed

Lakhlan01
16 Jan 2012 10:21

SDK should be a mix of both fascism and anti-dictatorship.

Ro-Artstudio3DS
16 Jan 2012 04:55

Quoth Ro-Artstudio3DS:

The admins are not stupid they're doing their jobs Cudd.They are sometimes strict, but fairly they're helping the community.^^d

Whoops i mean Dc's something something not cudd!.

Ro-Artstudio3DS
16 Jan 2012 04:54

The admins are not stupid they're doing their jobs Cudd.They are sometimes strict, but fairly they're helping the community.^^d

vinsackzo
16 Jan 2012 04:42

The admins who ban you are doing their job. The members that complain about it too much, need to chill out, eat a cupcake and watch ponies.

Waffle King
16 Jan 2012 02:42

You forgot the most important opinion of all. MINE. And I say, we should all put our differences aside and help to build a perfect society in my image. SDK shall fall, and from its ashes shall rise the phoenix that is the Waffle Empire. Forget all of these corrupt admins, and bow down to your new master. The glorious Waffle King. Together, I shall rule the cosmos. Mwuhaha.

HullBreach
16 Jan 2012 02:26

Let's all relax and have fun!

Skittles
16 Jan 2012 02:17

Most of us just try to do our jobs.

PosessedCarson
16 Jan 2012 01:59

Bleh *DSiCade

PosessedCarson
16 Jan 2012 01:57

It's funny. Go to the help desk and under "resolved" you'll see like 10 questions along the lines of 'omg I got band 4 no reson' You new guys need a lesson or two. If an admin becomes an admin it's because they have proven to be responsible. Granted, if you became chatmin, what's the first thing you want to do? Ban someone. Remember that newer admins usually have a shorter fuse. And to admins, warns are usually best to use before banning. We don't want to end up like DSiCade where you type 's---' and you meant to type 'shot' and immediately receive a perma. I mean, some users deserve a little slack every now and then.

Mr.Bond
16 Jan 2012 01:06

I think that the members (Includes me) are wrong. Think about it, members are promoted to adminship from experience, and epicness.

COMMANDER
16 Jan 2012 00:50

Quoth Mr. Lord Zeus:

Lol. I experienced being an Admin and a Member and to be honest there flaws with both sides. Admins provoking members or responding back to them. Members annoying/disrespecting admins etc. That happened between Chuck and I, but we squashed it. Maybe if everyone just took a chill pill things would be better.
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I squashed it, and it's all over my boot >_>

Fang14
15 Jan 2012 23:37

I think some admins are awesome, but others are just idiots. Sometimes I think a two year old could do a better job, but lets admit it, without admins this place would be a total hell-hole. Trolls deserve bans. I have to put up with bullies at school, I use this site as a safe haven but if I make one stupid spelling mistake, they act like I'm a total idiot. I agree with almost all the rules. I however think that somestimes a ban isn't the best way to go. Hardly any adminskick users anymore, I've only been kicked cause I asked to. Sometimes I get banne. I'm not perfect. I think 2 admins should witness befor the ban. I mean that way a member dosn't get banned for a simple spelling mistake

PORKStheMEATofKINGS
15 Jan 2012 23:24

Members don't hate admins who do their jobs, we hate admins who abuse their jobs and keep score of how many bans they get.

Spyfox72
15 Jan 2012 23:18

It's a website.

a.smith
15 Jan 2012 23:14

Quoth KiNGPiN:

Agreed Carson.
Zoey made me lol.
I think most admins are fair but there are one or two that try to intimidate people into doing something banworthy. When that happens both sides are pathetic.
You guys take this too seriously, I doubt that Hull's intentions were to create a completely serious site for people to argue.

I agree to this... its both sides fault. admins actually encorage people to do something to get themselves banned.

Epifex
15 Jan 2012 22:38

I honestly think people are making such a big deal out of this in general. I mean, really, being an admin is good and all, but it really doesn't matter. People just need to realise that, as nice as this site is, it's small and insignificant in the long run.

Rainbow-Dash
15 Jan 2012 22:12

We need more admins like commander?

No.

MaxiMillion
15 Jan 2012 22:11

I would have rather read a console war than an arguement about higher authority between regular members.

You want to know your right as a regular member? It's everything this site has to offer. Along with rules. If you disobey them you'll be banned. By administrators.

Lucas7
15 Jan 2012 22:06

Come on, why can't the citizens of this website just follow the rules and live happily ever after. It's so easy. And if noobs feel like raging on people, they reallly should take it to a diffrent site. Make it easier for admins...

KingofDarkness
15 Jan 2012 21:49

Quoth Nope.avi:

The members you picked to whine about us are the same ones that get banned every day because they don't know how to follow the rules.

True story.

The members everyone knows, don't complain about the admins or the rules, well most of them.

Kingpin
15 Jan 2012 21:40

Quoth Nope.avi:

The members you picked to whine about us are the same ones that get banned every day because they don't know how to follow the rules.

True story.

Exactly. None of them agree with anything admin wise.

Kingpin
15 Jan 2012 21:38

Agreed Carson.
Zoey made me lol.
I think most admins are fair but there are one or two that try to intimidate people into doing something banworthy. When that happens both sides are pathetic.
You guys take this too seriously, I doubt that Hull's intentions were to create a completely serious site for people to argue.

Nope.avi
15 Jan 2012 21:34

The members you picked to whine about us are the same ones that get banned every day because they don't know how to follow the rules.

True story.

Ellis9549
15 Jan 2012 21:31

I think this blog was really good, and I might respond to this blog with one of my own and my take. +1

a.smith
15 Jan 2012 21:13

Ummmm... sad o.e admins do nothingg good for this site. some are great! pat on the back! but some admins are idiots. and the admit to it... they say the find it fun banning. anywayssss its point of view. this is no evidence that everyone feels the same way xD you basicly took members nobody even knows and copied what they said. even though a lot more members are against it

Mr. Lord Zeus
15 Jan 2012 21:12

Lol. I experienced being an Admin and a Member and to be honest there flaws with both sides. Admins provoking members or responding back to them. Members annoying/disrespecting admins etc. That happened between Chuck and I, but we squashed it. Maybe if everyone just took a chill pill things would be better.

MetalHeart
15 Jan 2012 21:11

Didn't mean to double post.

PosessedCarson
15 Jan 2012 21:09

Lol should've picked more known members. No offense lolz

welive56
15 Jan 2012 21:04

i think admins are being very fair to us members, members cuss and get band and they complain that its not fair at the end of the day its just a couple of hours not being aloud to go on theres plenty more stuff on dsipaint and in our lives so those people should get over it

Weeeee
15 Jan 2012 20:57

Admins VS Members

Round one: Fight in this blog's comments.

kgo

MetalHeart
15 Jan 2012 20:48

I think members who say admins are stupid, generally are rule breakers. They are constantly banned.. and as the end result, they get perma'd. Just another blog i'm used to seeing.

MysticalZoey
15 Jan 2012 20:44

lulz. I wrote too much.

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