Breeding and EV training.

Mmm,I've studied breeding and EV training but just cant seem to grasp them. Is there a brave soul out there who can simplify these processes for the trainers on dsi paint and I!?

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Nope, there is not, And the information that would be the best is the new EV training rules for black/white

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The distinguished colmanic14 spake:

Nope, there is not, And the information that would be the best is the new EV training rules for black/white

Col, there aren't reall any new "rules" to EV training, in B/W. It's simply a matter of finding an area populated by Attack-Based Pokemon, such as Route 1, with Lillipup, who will 'drop' a certain number of Effort Points. Lillipups Effort Value is 1, so you need to face 252 Lillipups to get 63+ in the Attack Stat.

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Alright,well Ive brushed up on it, so Ill post some info.
For every four EV's you obtain, you earn one stat point for said EV's. Contrary to old games, I believe black has a system to EV train even your level 100s!

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Col, that would be practically impossible, seeing as how Stats can only be raised by gaining another level. You can use vitamins, but those just add EVs to your Stats, and are applied at the next level-up, when the game "awards" you with the Stat increases. In older games[such as Crystal], your Stats would change after a few vitamins, even if you didn't gain a level.

The only real change to EV TRaining was from Gen I to Gen II, where n Gen I, there was no limit to how many EVs you could have per Stat, meaning you could literally raise all Stats to their maximum capacity, as judged by their Base Stats. Gen II sought to patch this up, and enacted the "Maximum" EV standard.

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The distinguished The Ram spake:

Col, that would be practically impossible, seeing as how Stats can only be raised by gaining another level. You can use vitamins, but those just add EVs to your Stats, and are applied at the next level-up, when the game "awards" you with the Stat increases. In older games[such as Crystal], your Stats would change after a few vitamins, even if you didn't gain a level.

The only real change to EV TRaining was from Gen I to Gen II, where n Gen I, there was no limit to how many EVs you could have per Stat, meaning you could literally raise all Stats to their maximum capacity, as judged by their Base Stats. Gen II sought to patch this up, and enacted the "Maximum" EV standard.

Well actually, I've done it, and it DOES work! :3 My Tyrannitar DID have 292 attack stat points at lv.100 but,after fighting purely lillipups,its EV's has reached maximum,and is now 355,
now,for breeding. Each pokemon belongs to its own egg group,which means that you dont have to have a male and female of the same species to breed. When breeding, two crucial rules apply: 1. The mothers species will always hatch from the egg. For example, I'll use my zorua.
I have a female Zorua and a male Lucario. Since their both in the same egg group,they can breed! Since Zorua is the mother, the baby will ALWAYS be a Zorua. (also,egg groups can be found onwww.seribii.com, I HIGHLY recommend using this site to find what egg group your desired pokemon is in.)
Now,for rule two: The fathers moves may be passed down if one of them is in your baby's Egg Moves list.
An egg move list is the list of moves pokemon can learn through breeding. Lets use my Zorua and Lucario again. Lucario,the father knows Dark Pulse,which is in Zoruas Egg Move List. So when the baby is born, Dark pulse, (which couldn't be obtained through level up before.) will be passed on. -Also, If you teach the father TMs the baby can learn,they too will be passed on.

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Now get ready for this one >:b
Breeding shiny pokemon!
Yes,you read that right, you can dramatically cut the chances of obtaining a shiny pokemon through breeding.
You may do this by utilizing the Masuda Method. This method is named after the games developer, after he revealed it.
The Masuda Method is breeding two pokemon from different nationalities to cut the chances of hatching a shiny pokemon by a whopping of 75%! Though chances are still slim, the odds of hatching one has dramatically increased.
Once again,lets use my male zorua, and a female zorua I've obtained via GTS. Now my male Zorua is an american Zorua,born and raised. Nothing unusual right? Now my newly attained female Zorua is from Japan!! Having these two mate has now increased my odds by 75%!
I've unfortunantly failed to hatch a shiny Zorua yet, but I'm very excited!
Oh,and another thing. Having a pokemon with the ability Flame Body will reduce hatching time in half!
as an example, lets say, to hatch a Zorua egg will take 1,500 steps. Since I have my Volcarona in my party, I only have to take 750 steps now! If you wish to recieve your baby quickly, I recommend taking your bike, and cycling up and down Skyarrow bridge.
Did I leave something out? Have questions? feel free to comment,or add on below! :)

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Hmm... I'll try hacking a Lv. 100 Weezing to try that on, but I stiill havemy doubts. And either way, Lv. 50 is where most battles take place. Since the game doesn't just chop your Stats in half, it's critical that you EV-Train to the max before Lv. 50, oterwise your Pokémon won't have the best Stats.

For breeding, there are a few exceptions.

Nidoran[F] can produce both Nidoran [F] and Nidoran [M] eggs.

Illumise and Volbeat, to bug types in Gen III, can do the exact same. I forget which is which gender however, I never fund them useful.

Also, you can use Everstone and the Power Items to pass down Nature ad IVs, respectively. Crucial in breeding 'the one'.

Whoa bro, better slow down bro, don't wanna be a bro, bro.

The distinguished The Ram spake:

Hmm... I'll try hacking a Lv. 100 Weezing to try that on, but I stiill havemy doubts. And either way, Lv. 50 is where most battles take place. Since the game doesn't just chop your Stats in half, it's critical that you EV-Train to the max before Lv. 50, oterwise your Pokémon won't have the best Stats.

For breeding, there are a few exceptions.

Nidoran[F] can produce both Nidoran [F] and Nidoran [M] eggs.

Illumise and Volbeat, to bug types in Gen III, can do the exact same. I forget which is which gender however, I never fund them useful.

Also, you can use Everstone and the Power Items to pass down Nature ad IVs, respectively. Crucial in breeding 'the one'.

your absolutly right, the best time to ev train would be well, A.S.A.P. as even after training Tyrannitar, his stats still arn't the best. Thanks also for the exceptions and breeding rules ram

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No problem. There are a few more, but some, like Tauros & Miltank, are not able to breed either. Only Miltank.

True, that's why I do it at Lv. 1...

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I hate to correct you guys after having gone back an forth so much with EV training, but...

colmanic14 is actually right. In B/W the EV training rules have been changed a little. Back in the 4th generation and 3rd generation games, Stat increases would only be added and calculated if the pokemon received Effort Values, then leveled up. In Black and White however, if the pokemon is level 100 and you wish you had EV trained it instead of using it for the story mode, you can use the berries to reduce the Effort values, then battle pokemon once again to increase a stat. This is because Black and White deleted the barrier that blocked EV points being calculated only after leveling. EV points will now change a stat even if the pokemon does not level up. It's all calculated after battle rather than after a level.

In a way you're both right.

RESIGNED

Another new thing in B&W are the feathers that raise one EV Per feather for a certain stat, te advantage for using this over vitamins is that there is no limit, the disadvantage is that they are extremely hard to get in the quantity you would need.

The distinguished Techno spake:

Another new thing in B&W are the feathers that raise one EV Per feather for a certain stat, te advantage for using this over vitamins is that there is no limit, the disadvantage is that they are extremely hard to get in the quantity you would need.

And all of the annoying Ducklett/Swanna that you would have to run from.[Unless you defeat them because you need those EPs.]

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