Amanda Todd (you know the story)

I just felt like starting this thread. If you don't know who I'm talking about, check your Facebook and look at your news feed. Or just check the news.

Honestly, with all due respect to Amanda and her family, she does not deserve the treatment more then any other child. Sure, she was bullied after trying to do the right thing and get help, but she made some excessively poor choices.

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I'm not familiar with her. For others like me, I may be worthwhile to provide details for the discussion.

I'm predestined to have free will.

It sounds like a very sad situation, but why did she fall for this stuff twice? It seems like one of those "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" situations. Obviously, the bullies are horrible for their actions and have blood on their hands. Hopefully teens will learn to not do this stupid cybering stuff after seeing how things turned out with this girl.

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The distinguished viperII spake:

She was said to have had a learning disability, so it was more like "fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on you...." As sad as the fact is, it takes a life for the rest to learn a lesson thst should have been known in the first place.

If this is the case, then the whole situation changes. She may not have been capable of reasoning through what was happening. Either way, those who led her to her early demise have blood on their hands.

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The distinguished StrangeEnigma spake:

A lot of jokes making fun of this topic are surfacing on the internet. (Most notably on Facebook.) Sometimes, I'm not sure whether to laugh or cuss tbh.

Honestly, why is it there's never any GOOD news aired on television anymore. Nobody ever reports about the local bake sale or the middle scool fundraiser happening on Coleman Ave. No, all they ever report on the chick who got hazed until she drank bleach, or the psycho who attacked a pregnant woman and cut the baby out of her womb in broad daylight...I swear, the media thrives on pain and suffering.

Of course, Bad news is more interesting. People are more likely going to watch it.

I don't have anything intelligent to say.

If you have a learning disability, it doesn't give you the right to take no responsibility.

If a girl with dyslexia flashed chatroulette and had sex with a boy in a relationship (though that one can change, under all circumstances the boy is most at daily and is a total ass) she still needs to take responsibility.

Also, can you cite your sources? I can't find anything on her learning disability.

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What I think is, you didn't care when she was alive, why care when she's dead? There are worse stories than this about someone who didn't make a mistake, it was because of how he was born. He didn't even get his name mentioned until years later and by then nobody cared.

You're no better than the bullies if it takes a death of someone if you only care after their death. There were millions of people that could've helped that only cared after she died.

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The distinguished MoldyLunchBoxx spake:

What I think is, you didn't care when she was alive, why care when she's dead? There are worse stories than this about someone who didn't make a mistake, it was because of how he was born. He didn't even get his name mentioned until years later and by then nobody cared.

You're no better than the bullies if it takes a death of someone if you only care after their death. There were millions of people that could've helped that only cared after she died.

This.

I don't have anything intelligent to say.

Why does everyone always point out the bullies? Why does no one point out the parents that gave the child internet access, gave her the iPhone with full texting privileges, and anything else that allowed her to go online and post nude photos. Sorry but this is a three way street here, not just OMG BULLIES KILLED A GIRL SO INNOCENT, SO YOUNG.

That is bullcrap and all of you know that. If her parents paid any kind of attention to her habits, none of this would happened, if her parents would have said "No, you are a teenage girl, what do you need a 450 dollar phone, with full access to internet, texting and video chatting for?", if her parents would have put some kind of net security on their child's computer, and kept an eye on her IM, Facebook, Twitter, etc usage, and along with this not be a promiscuous pretween girl, then OBVIOUSLY none of this would have happened.

I really do feel bad she killed herself, yea it was a waste of a life, but honestly, how much of that did she bring on herself, and how much of it was truly "bullying"?

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The distinguished Haruspex spake:

Why does everyone always point out the bullies? Why does no one point out the parents that gave the child internet access, gave her the iPhone with full texting privileges, and anything else that allowed her to go online and post nude photos. Sorry but this is a three way street here, not just OMG BULLIES KILLED A GIRL SO INNOCENT, SO YOUNG.

That is bullcrap and all of you know that. If her parents paid any kind of attention to her habits, none of this would happened, if her parents would have said "No, you are a teenage girl, what do you need a 450 dollar phone, with full access to internet, texting and video chatting for?", if her parents would have put some kind of net security on their child's computer, and kept an eye on her IM, Facebook, Twitter, etc usage, and along with this not be a promiscuous pretween girl, then OBVIOUSLY none of this would have happened.

I really do feel bad she killed herself, yea it was a waste of a life, but honestly, how much of that did she bring on herself, and how much of it was truly "bullying"?

The insight of Haruspex once again saves the day. *clap clap*

I'm predestined to have free will.

That's...just about as harsh as it gets. I'm not entirely sure I want to read that article.
Surely if she didn't move away, the friends she had, however minimal after the photos came onto Facebook, could have supported her and kept her reasonably safe from suicide. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it was her fault, but, like all situations, there are tiny slip-ups alongside the big ones that could have been prevented so easily. Had certain bits been prevented, the whole situation could have been prevented. All I'm saying is, where were her so-called friends who should have believed in her, and supported her throughout?

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The distinguished HullBreach spake:

The distinguished Haruspex spake:Why does everyone always point out the bullies? Why does no one point out the parents that gave the child internet access, gave her the iPhone with full texting privileges, and anything else that allowed her to go online and post nude photos. Sorry but this is a three way street here, not just OMG BULLIES KILLED A GIRL SO INNOCENT, SO YOUNG.

That is bullcrap and all of you know that. If her parents paid any kind of attention to her habits, none of this would happened, if her parents would have said "No, you are a teenage girl, what do you need a 450 dollar phone, with full access to internet, texting and video chatting for?", if her parents would have put some kind of net security on their child's computer, and kept an eye on her IM, Facebook, Twitter, etc usage, and along with this not be a promiscuous pretween girl, then OBVIOUSLY none of this would have happened.

I really do feel bad she killed herself, yea it was a waste of a life, but honestly, how much of that did she bring on herself, and how much of it was truly "bullying"?

The insight of Haruspex once again saves the day. *clap clap*

In all fairness, in situations like this, many people are to blame, some more than others. For instance, EVERYONE'S parents allowed them to use the Internet unsupervisd and therefore make the Internet hate. Even people from other countries got in on the hate. By this reasoning, it's the whole society that drove her to suicide; first degree in those who bullied her physically and to her face, second degree in those who were first hand witnesses and posted the videos to Facebook, and the third degree in those who, without knowing her, joined in over the Internet. It's just about everybody's fault, to some degree. For instance, it's predicted that at least 56% of the Internet (specifically Facebook) were against her; a lot of people said nothing about it, and only 200 supported her.

Don't mess with storms, or you're getting shocked.

I barely heard about it two days after my birthday...

99% of the things she's saying to you she said to me before, so don't feel so special.

She was just a retard for showing a stranger herself. Who video chats with a freaking stranger? Really. I would of fought back. I would of told my parents. I wouldn't date a guy that told me he loves me. I would need more details on that guy. She just makes no sense to me.

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The distinguished viperII spake:

The distinguished patchiman spake:[quote]The distinguished viperII spake:<blockquote>Just another victim of the internet hate machine.

Yes, I agree. 9gag must be stopped</blockquote>Ebaum's World is guilty too. One thing I don't get is how "cyber-bullying" is a thing. People have the option to delete hatemail and not read it, they have the option to log out of chatrooms if other people give them grief and in some sites you can flag a user for harassment and they'll be banned or perma'd even. It's really all on the user who chooses to stay on and take in all this hate then play the victim.[/quote]

Cyber-bullying is a thing because kids these days have absolutely no backbone whatsoever, and would rather cry "bully" than to do something about it.

I was bullied all through my first year of high school, and I stood up for myself, got into a few fights, got my ass kicked, but at least I stood up for myself, and when it got too bad, I knew when to get an adult or whatever.

Kids now just want to complain about everything, you disagree with them, its automatically bullying, you get called one name in fun over Facebook, omg cyber-bully. I do not buy it at all.

Yes, there are real bully situations, where people bully you because your color, sexual preference, but this case, she brought it on herself, and was just a victim of "PAY MOAR ATENSON 2 ME" and it backfired.

Sucks for her.

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In all due respect, if you have time to feel sad for a dead person and make them famous, then you havethe time to feel sad and perhaps help the people struggling to stay alive. I said this to my peers once and all they said was basically along the lines of, Yeah well they're still alive, they still have a chance. The way they said it though was in a way that they didn't agree with me. But honestly, just think. I said that about someone else who was dead but everyone only payed attention to them, that same, what about the living thing, and they said that. Well then they'd care about Amanda AFTER she DIED.

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The distinguished Craaig spake:

This happens all over the world. I don't know why everyone is making a big deal out of it, I don't even care.

You're kind of right there, but wrong too...

99% of the things she's saying to you she said to me before, so don't feel so special.