WikiLeaks

As some of you may know, the government has a leak.
it's called [a=http://213.251.145.96/]WikiLeaks[/a].
WikiLeaks is a website that has leaked information about top secret stuff that goes on in the army and in the government that they dont want the public to know. WikiLeaks makes that info public to everyone.

What do you think about this? should wikileak be shut down or do the people of the world have a right to know what really goes down?

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I've heard of this guy that leaked a bunch of information to WikiLeaks recently...

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I keep checking there, it's impossible for me to see anything on it, because they don't show any of the cables they had to the Politicians, who willingly agreed to supply the Info to WikiLeaks, giving them the power to do what they will with it.

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Ici- You seem to not understand what the whole concept of WikiLeaks is.

That site was created for the soul purpose of informing the people of what goes on in the background of politics, this is stuff we as American Citizens and well people in general have the right to know in the first place.

The reason it isnt taken down, is because it falls under the Constitutional Right of Freedom of Speech and Print

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There is obviously loop-holes in freedom of speech. Verbal racism is legal along with leaking millitary ops. However if we removed it everything would go corrupt. By making these illegal freedom of speech would be useless.

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@Link: Well put.

@Ici: The point, as Haru pointed out, is also remove censorship... At least, that's what one of its Banners said last year.

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I think people have the right to know "top-secret" stuff.
But some people decide to take it way too far and act against it.
I'm pretty sure they won't take it down regardless anyways.

They won't, it'd be illegal to, technically. However, I think they imprisoned the Founder of WikiLeaks, for a little bit, anyway.

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Yeah, youre all right. It is protected by the freedom of speach. But, freedom of speach is limited by goverment.

Theres a reason for why goverment do tell us secret stuff. Its because wikileaks other countries can find out american weakness.

By doing that we could be overrun by terrorist alot quicker. Even though america I the so-called strongest nation.

Even the strongest things can crumble when a weakness is used.

So wikileaks should be removed right away. If they set a password on it hackers can get pass the security.

It must be removed for national security.

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he's called sumtin liek julian. i dunno. but wikileaks is useful for some ppl.

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@Dionn: It doesn't only hold U.S. "Secrets", rather, information we have rights to. I believe it has other Nations' information as well.

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@ iciownu:
its information that is leaked directly from people who know this stuff.
its encrypted then it takes month for a team to decrypt it and get up on wikileaks.

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they have tried to take it down, the guy running the site can no longer advertise, he relies only on donations from other.

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yes, like the ram said, it contains stuff from every country, not just yours and mine.

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To quote - "Theres a reason for why goverment do tell us secret stuff. Its because wikileaks other countries can find out american weakness."

This is all together wrong. The government doesnt tell us stuff because they want to keep us as stupid as possible to get the next vote. Think about it, if I told you I was going to take away your favorite toy, you wouldnt vote for me next election, BUT if I did not tell you that and just kept it a secret, I would have the chance to get your vote no matter what, AND still take your favorite toy. Its a win win for me.

What WikiLeaks has done, was put ALL OF THE NATIONS, all of them, from all over the world. They put all of the classified info on that website for the general public to read, and learn from.

Everyone knows America's weakness, they always have, and they always will, they did not need a website to tell them that.

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Yes, one of the United States' weakness': When we find foreign oil, we're troopless at home. Ohhhh, ♪Ta-li-baaan!♭[xD, I couldn't resist]

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Wikileaks disgusts me. Keep in mind that the majority of the material that they publish regards the United States. So the website is promoting a skewed view of the world. As long as what they release endangers our troops, and thus our citizens, I am against it. Why should governments be "kept open"? Secrets are what the world runs on. My point is that there is a fine line between what should be known and what should not.

Catch my drift.

@Lim- Wait what? Endangers troops? Our citizens? Seriously?

Nothing bad has came out of the leaks, period. Troops have not died more than they already have, citizens have not been in any danger than what they already are due to everyday circumstances.

If anything, people are NOW knowledgeable of the ongoings of the US government, and really, how is that hurting people? Knowledge equals power, and the more you know, the better you are in terms of future decisions of how you as an American Citizen will vote, and how you want your country to run.

I do not see anything wrong with that.

Also, how is facts based on Government documents a "skewed view of the world"? I mean we do not live in the world of candy canes and lollypops like most people think we do. These documents are actual documents taken from actual people, nothing is skewed, nothing is made up, THIS IS HOW THE GOVERNMENT WORKS, not "Oh hey, I am the big bad wolf and I am going to eat your kids"

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@Haruspex

I was referring to American interrogation techniques that were released some time ago. If the enemy knows how a country interrogates prisoners, then they can become resistant to it. And while they're not spilling potentially valuable information on planned operations, base locations, troop movement, etc., then soldiers in the field run a higher risk of getting killed. Troops dying eventually leads to citizens dying.

Knowledge certainly is power. But it's all about how it circulates and exactly whose hands it falls into.

The entirety of Wikileaks is not distasteful, but when some content is, it ruins the whole. Murder and war crimes committed by soldiers, from which the military can be reviewed? Certainly. Diplomatic transmissions that prove detrimental to agreements, or details on past covert operations that can lend insight into how ops teams work? Definitely not. How about leaking the number of fighter jets that a certain country is buying? Well, that should be going to intelligence agencies, not the world. As I said, there are things people ought to know and things they should not.

When I say "a skewed view of the world", I'm questioning why things aren't (often) being leaked from, say, North Korea or Cuba or Russia; because it's the United States that this website is focusing on. Thus Wikileaks is painting a false picture of the world today. If they can't do it right, they shouldn't be doing it.

As for the factuality of such leaked documents, I don't have the means to say.

Catch my drift.

Honestly, I was not sure, and am still not sure how to respond to the WikiLeaks debacle. On one hand, having transparency on the government's real motives for its actions would be nice. On the other hand, [b]if[b] it did endanger certain American (and our allies') interests around the globe, would it be worth it?
Oh and I do not believe this can be compared to muckraking, at least, if we're basing it off of Upton Sinclair's style of it.

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I'm on the fence about it... i like knowing. but its also traitor of our nations.

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Bradley Manning, the army private who submitted countless secret U.S. government documents to WikiLeaks, has been found guilty of various degrees of espionage but not guilty of "aiding the enemy".

Catch my drift.