"Afghans took to the streets for a third straight day Sunday in Jalalabad and Kandahar to protest last month's torching of a copy of the Quaran by followers of Terry Jones, a Gainesville, Fla.-Based pastor. Two policemen were killed and more than 30 people wounded."
-RedEye
What is your stance on this? Is this not a hate crime? More so, a religious one. I understand that there are two factors here: Free Speech, which could be used to defend his actions, and a hate crime accusation, which could be used to accuse him. I'm not entirely sure which one would overrule the other, but, it's still an interesting topic for debate. Let the bigotry begin... NOW.
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Because, this one was selected for news, and the idiot pastor was smart enough to announce it nationally, saying the Middle East is evil, and such. Christ, if I wanted to burn a bible, I'd do it privately in my home/alley, not announce it as an event to celebrate.
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@Skittles: Another good point, actually. He gives you[Christians in general] a bad[worse] image, because of his actions. He is clearly, not thinking clearly.
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I think it's pretty rude, and selfish: "Hey, I'm going to burn something that's special/holy a religious group, just to anger them!" It's also pretty hypocritical, if somebody burned a bible, he'd be angry, I'm sure.
This doesn't fit the (admittedly cloudy) definition of a hate crime. A hate crime is a criminal offense committed against someone or some group on the basis of discrimination.
However I am, by no means, condoning the minister's actions. What he did was outright wrong. It also puts his own religion in a poor light. But motives? Whether he was trying to offend Muslims or just prove a point to his congregation doesn't matter; there's no justifying burning another religion's holy book.
As for the Muslim reaction: poor. Rioting in the streets and causing mayhem is not the way to respond--making them look very bad as well.
This situation just shows the foolishness of many religious individuals. The different religions quibble amongst each other and eventually do something stupid. And then those out there looking for a belief system and a means of faith are left feeling disappointed.
sorry for double post, just remembered:
i saw a political comic in the paper tonight. it showed the preacher standing to the left of a small pile of flaming qurans. To the right of the pile was a large man in turban&black robe holding a gasoline canister thing that said "Recruitment", the large man was saying "Thanks for kindeling the flames Pastor (Pastor's_Name_Here)"
♪But there's no use crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.♪
@Lim: True, it's just a childish act, like not letting something go, instead, choosing to destroy the object that caused such conflicts. However, war & religion usually go hand in hand, so, this isn't strange, in a way... Apologies for the ramble.
@Drwho: Poppies? Like the plant, or some sort of clothing/jewelry?
The point is, there was no point to do it, considering that he received a poor reception of the idea during his initial announcement, and yet, he still went through with it, several months later. He's not exactly helping the "situation", if there is one.
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im a floridiam, christian, and they burn the christian bible, so y kant we burn a quaran? i wouldn't mind doing it myelf 〒_〒 they send PHOTOS of burning american flags over here..thatz just not rite ...
Call me a moron here, but, I'm ready to burn a Bible now. But, unlike you two, I'm not ready to stoop down to their level... Yet. The point is, you(the religion)should try to reach a compromise, I think would be the term... Not continue to feed the flame. No pun intended.
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I am really dissapointed with the actions of some christans (here and IRL). According to Jesus when someone wrongs you, you turn the other cheek. If someone steals your coat, give him your better one. Of course in real life your definately not going to do that BUT it is saying; Just because someone did something to you, that doesn't mean it is ok for you to do something mean to them. Seriously everyone knows that. Don't go shouting, "WELL THEY DID SOMETHING MEAN FIRST!!"
Secondly don't judge the muslim's. The middle east has been in turmoil ever since after WWII. Many people there only know violence as a solution because they are scared. If you look into their hearts you would honestly see alot of good in them. If you would learn about muslims and their culture from other sources than the evening news and other mainstream media. You would find a rich trove of knowlege. We need to start building trust and friendships betwean the middle east and the west. If you build trust and friendship then you will eventually build peace.
The world is not black and white, it is shades of gray.
@TheKriegsmarine If you mean to discourage misjudgment of all Muslims to fit the current stereotype, then I agree. But if you're discouraging all judgment of the Muslims because all they know is violence and fear, then no. Ignoring the factuality of the claim, that reeks of failing to apply accountability. People get judged by their actions. That is a fact.