Gay Adoption Measure Fails

Okay, enough. Just, what are your stances on it?! Not Jesus', Muhammad's, or Abraham's stance, your stance on it... Think logic, not religion.

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Exactly, I have freedom and I will ABUSE it, to think freely.

My ideal life; Living to the fullest, having fun, and geeking on a linux box.

Thank you.

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That is true. But, he clarified that he doesn't. Now, please, end of this branch of subject.

Whoa bro, better slow down bro, don't wanna be a bro, bro.

I seriously don't understand why people have a big deal about gays. Sure, it's in the bible. But who gives a damn?! I don't get why people rage when two men kiss. Christianity just confuses me in so many ways.

Communism: You have more water, everyone has more water!

I agree. Ironically, nobody would decry two women kissing, but, that's not appropriate for me to further elaborate my point.

Whoa bro, better slow down bro, don't wanna be a bro, bro.

What a brilliant point Ram! Lesbians are food, don't get me wrong but men call them food. They harass for sexuality, whilst enjoy the eye candy. You get what I mean, men don't have a problem with bi girls or lesbians. Just when wanted they harass. Due to many observations around the web of amusing blogs and funny claims by cos'.
But if your a homosexual it's the end of the world, I myself go to a anti-gays school. And again, guys don't mind bi girls but mind gay guys.

My ideal life; Living to the fullest, having fun, and geeking on a linux box.

EXACTLY. I'm sure if I punchec a few words into Google, I'd get thousands of links saying how homosexuality is wrong, but, if I change the keyword "Gay" to "Lesbian",[which is immensly stupid, as they mean the same thing, essentially,] I'd get quite a few, err, links.

I'm not sure I can find anymore euphanisms for the word anymore. -.-

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I get what you guys are saying but if we look at it from areligious point of view, god created us in his image, if got wasn't gay then why create gays and lesbians?

I obviously don't think that way and I think all gays should be treated equally.

Where there is light, there is always darkness.

@KoD: That's true, but very contradictory on Religion's part.

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In my religion it just says it's an Abomination... As in disliked, disgusting, now I'm not sure how people say it's "forbidden". But obviously I just mind my own self, and really and never will have any say. Other than I donmt care, but if you supporote homsexuality you suport NAMBLA. NAMBLA is National American Man Boy Love Association, and it promotes Gay rights and pedophilia. Just saying, if your for gay rights you do support NAMBLA. And that's where I cut the cheese by not caring. I have nothing against Gays and never will.

My ideal life; Living to the fullest, having fun, and geeking on a linux box.

@Syed: Ah, NAMBLA... Well, pedophilia is a different subject, and, most likely, these days you support LGBT if you support Gay Rights. And that is quite the smart stance, actually.

Whoa bro, better slow down bro, don't wanna be a bro, bro.

Some people take religion far over-board, letting it control their way of thinking.
"Oh, the Bible says this, so i hate that!"
It's not like you HAVE to believe every word the Bible says, or you'll be hung. This is why I admire atheists in a way, because they're able to pull away from all that garbage, and think/believe what they WANT to, not what Jesus does.

Communism: You have more water, everyone has more water!

Aethiests, no agonostic, yes. I don't think there will ever be a world wide vote seeing who likes homosexyuals and who doesn't. I think if you have the will to show yourself in public with a person of the same sx, go ahead.
As long as you don't invite me to a gay orgy I could personally care less.

Come at me dog.

I'm sorry if you find my last comment crude in any way, just speaking my mind..

Come at me dog.

@Eden: The last part, not at all. Understanable. XD I disagree with you in the beginning, however. When I broke off from all my churchly duties and everything I was doing,[Alter Boy, Chior...] I was steamed at Religion. 6 wasted years. So, I became what one would call Agnostic. It led to awkward questions, so, I chose to just shut it all out, and become Atheist. No more of someone else's bigotry influencing my own bigotry... We have created the mess of a world we have today, and millions of years ago, a couple of cells found combining worked better in the long-run than splitting. Do your history if you don't understand my terminology... But, I digress...

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The Ram- You certainly do digress. How did this become about the creation of the entire world from some disorganized "cellular soup"?
Imagine you just bought this beautiful house. It's in a great neighborhood filled with other luxurious homes, and cost you a pretty penny, as many other people were vying for that house. After living in the house a few days, you hear a knock on the door. Your next door neighbor, a jolly old man, has come over to welcome you to the neighborhood. You invite him in, bring him some water, and sit down for a chat. After a while, you start discussing your house.
"Did you see the architect who constructed my house?" you ask the man.
"Architect?" the man chuckles. "Here's how your house was built:
First, there was a great earthquake. Large deposits of iron ore were pushed up from underground and many trees were knocked over. The trees fell in such a way that their trunks all hit the iron ore. They splintered into two-by-fours, and all the ore was pounded into nails by the fallng trunks. Next, a great hurrican came by, striking a beach about a mile from here. It hit the sand many times with lightning, creating the perfectly square windows you see now. Last, a tornado rip through aand picked up all those supplies. They were thrown together in such a way that your house was created as you now see it."
How would you feel? Even though you can't see the architect, you know he had to exist to build something so perfect, so structurally sound. How do you think we have the Earth just the perfect distance away from the sun, so we don't freeze, but we don't burn either?
Now, back to the subject at hand. I believe that homosexuality is wrong. This is Jesus' opinion, and this is also God's opinion, but what you need to know is that it is my opinion. In the Bible it states at least in three different passages that homosexuality is wrong.

I... I'm not deep, or funny, or anything. I'm not even a good gamer. I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A LOZ GAME. I'm pretty plain.

So why would I claim to love God, and be grateful to him for all he's done for us, then turn around and slap him in the face by disobeying one of his most basic laws? It would make me a hypocrite, a jerk, and most of all, a liar.

Thanks Ram. I've been kind of depressed lately about something that happened in my life having to do with my religion. Having to explain my faith lifted me out of my funk, and made it clearer to me what I need to do.

I... I'm not deep, or funny, or anything. I'm not even a good gamer. I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A LOZ GAME. I'm pretty plain.

While I may digress, you, dear Tora, have 1 too many analogies at hand. And yes, I "know", just like how you "know" "God" exists, that we are created by cells, not miracles.

I would like to note, that while the analogy was amusingly long and intricate, it failed to be... "Flawless", shall we say... But, that may be my tired 5am self.

How is the earth far enough from the Sun to gain and deflect enough heat, and the moon able to affect our tidal calender, hell, creating the tidal calender? Oh, why, I believe it's science, dear Tora. Yes, Science.

I have read the demise of Sodom, if that is what you're implying.

The topic at hand is not just the topic of homosexuality, but the topic of why a group of prayer-nuts can keep a child from a loving family that could-be? How is that right? What if the child feels safer with these humans, than the humans watching them, or the hetero-humans who act like they all have giant poles shooting out of their rectal chambers because they simply hate one another? Riddle me that, Person.

And, have any of you ever considered the fact that all this "Wisdom of 'God'", was written down by humans, mostly hermits... Clearly, we are the superior beings for coming up with this jumbo, and I congratulate the walking carpets who did. However, I choose not to believe this, because the Bible, Quaran, and Taura[I believe that is the Hebrew/Jewish account of what "happened"] are all a very dull work of fiction, by said carpet hermits.

Well, I'm glad to have helped. And hey, you get to expain it more, since I'm not buying it. Oh, ♪happy day!♪

Phew... Long Rant...

Whoa bro, better slow down bro, don't wanna be a bro, bro.

I spent twenty minutes sculpting abeautiful reply to this, which was eaten by the BB.
So let me cut right to the chase of what I was saying.
A: You “know” we are created by cells? How so?
B: The Bible is 100% compatible with science. Even many scientists agree with that. If you're saying that these things were created by scientists, you are sadly mistaken. Miracles are science. Energy can be converted to matter, and matter can be converted to energy. Envision the Hiroshima bomb in your mind. Think of the size of it, less than the size of a man. Now think of all the energy it released upon explosion. Next, imagine all of the matter in the universe and how much eneergy would be released if it all exploded. That's the energy it took for Creation. And God didn't spend himself on Creation.
C: While all this "Wisdom of 'God'" was written by humans, it was inspired of God.
Imagine(Now that I'm more active on the BB's, you'll be hearing analogies with the word "imagine" in them a lot.) that you are a businessman, dictating a letter to your secretary. Who's letter is it? Your's, because you planned it out and thought it up, or the secretary's, because he/she typed it?

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Anyways, I realize in my previous post that I only adressed homosexuality as a whole, and not the issue at hand. So no, I don't believe they have the right to keep the child from them(unless the child's in the custody of the church, in which case I say carry on), and if they really don't approve, they should stop messing around and just expell them from the church already.

I... I'm not deep, or funny, or anything. I'm not even a good gamer. I HAVE NEVER PLAYED A LOZ GAME. I'm pretty plain.